Originally Posted by John Carr

Meh, that's kind of a break from the description of old, especially as it relates to a difference between the freight carriers;

UPS, a trucking company that uses airplanes to help move thier packages.

FedEX, and AIRLINE that also uses trucks to help get their packages where they need to go.

Originally Posted by jackryan

An old dying sentiment. They want to use everyone else’s airplanes to fly their freight. Just ask the pilots that were kicked out of the European base. They’ll tell you all about it.

FedEx is a logistics solution that utilizes airplanes to move freight when it makes sense.

The Fred Smith glory days at FedEx are over.

Originally Posted by John Carr

So bascially, turning into UPS before UPS used thier own planes.......

Originally Posted by Boeing Aviator

I’m pretty sure before 1988 when UPS brought their flying in house. They always owned the airplanes (mostly if not all), but they were crewed by the likes of Orion, Ryan and a handful of others like them.

Originally Posted by jackryan

An old dying sentiment. They want to use everyone else’s airplanes to fly their freight. Just ask the pilots that were kicked out of the European base. They’ll tell you all about it.

FedEx is a logistics solution that utilizes airplanes to move freight when it makes sense.

The Fred Smith glory days at FedEx are over.

Originally Posted by lowaltitude

I have seen this post over and over again but it’s my turn to ask.

Currently at Southwest at 30 years old. Just about to start my third year here. Currently living in base (DEN). My QoL is alright here, my base seniority has been pretty stagnant and due to personal reasons I don’t have the opportunity to pickup and trade as much as other people. I have enjoyed the culture here but I always planned on this being a temporary stop for me.

I have been waiting in United CJO pool for months. I got my CJO in March and finally got a class date in January. I have been very eager to come over to United however waiting 10 months has really made me question if this is worth the jump. I would like to do wide bodies and being in Denver the TK isn’t out of question for me. I know a lot of opportunities out of new hire have passed (WBFO and NBCA) and I am worried I’m behind the curve there.

Is it still a good decision to come over to UA?

Originally Posted by Otie

culture?
come on, it’s a job.
from a SWA guy, go to UAL.

Originally Posted by at6d

Im in agreement. It’s stagnant at SWA because we aren’t hiring. That said, don’t link your career to your identity.

Originally Posted by jerryleber

Funny, during Covid lots of UA widebody pilots discovered they loved flying cargo. I think UPS have the highest career earnings of any airline pilots in the world, and United has hired 8,174 of our approximately 17,000 pilots in the last six years. That said United is growing and has never been better managed.

https://www.fapa.aero/pilot-hiring-history

Originally Posted by lowaltitude

I have seen this post over and over again but it’s my turn to ask.

Currently at Southwest at 30 years old. Just about to start my third year here. Currently living in base (DEN). My QoL is alright here, my base seniority has been pretty stagnant and due to personal reasons I don’t have the opportunity to pickup and trade as much as other people. I have enjoyed the culture here but I always planned on this being a temporary stop for me.

I have been waiting in United CJO pool for months. I got my CJO in March and finally got a class date in January. I have been very eager to come over to United however waiting 10 months has really made me question if this is worth the jump. I would like to do wide bodies and being in Denver the TK isn’t out of question for me. I know a lot of opportunities out of new hire have passed (WBFO and NBCA) and I am worried I’m behind the curve there.

Is it still a good decision to come over to UA?