Jumping Ship to UA
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From: 18%er but I’ll enforce UPA23 to the last period.
#52
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From: 787 FO
Possibly true, but Smisek was very susceptible to the mantra of Wall Street. Don’t kid yourself, if he wasn’t fired he wouldn’t have pushed us down that path. He was on record numerous times as anti DEN and LAX. He gave up CAL’s old gates in terminal 6 (LAX) right after the merger. Kirby wouldn’t have loved those gates in LAX today just like the the gates Smisek gave up in JFK.
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#54
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From: Pilot
I have seen this post over and over again but it’s my turn to ask.
Currently at Southwest at 30 years old. Just about to start my third year here. Currently living in base (DEN). My QoL is alright here, my base seniority has been pretty stagnant and due to personal reasons I don’t have the opportunity to pickup and trade as much as other people. I have enjoyed the culture here but I always planned on this being a temporary stop for me.
I have been waiting in United CJO pool for months. I got my CJO in March and finally got a class date in January. I have been very eager to come over to United however waiting 10 months has really made me question if this is worth the jump. I would like to do wide bodies and being in Denver the TK isn’t out of question for me. I know a lot of opportunities out of new hire have passed (WBFO and NBCA) and I am worried I’m behind the curve there.
Is it still a good decision to come over to UA?
Currently at Southwest at 30 years old. Just about to start my third year here. Currently living in base (DEN). My QoL is alright here, my base seniority has been pretty stagnant and due to personal reasons I don’t have the opportunity to pickup and trade as much as other people. I have enjoyed the culture here but I always planned on this being a temporary stop for me.
I have been waiting in United CJO pool for months. I got my CJO in March and finally got a class date in January. I have been very eager to come over to United however waiting 10 months has really made me question if this is worth the jump. I would like to do wide bodies and being in Denver the TK isn’t out of question for me. I know a lot of opportunities out of new hire have passed (WBFO and NBCA) and I am worried I’m behind the curve there.
Is it still a good decision to come over to UA?
I made the jump years ago. At first I regretted the decision, some things aren't so good and the culture definitely has areas that can be improved (unlikely to change, in my opinion).
Then COVID happened and I realized what a terrible decision I made to make the jump.
SInce then I've been pleasantly surprised. Just finished the best year of my career.
Is it still a good decision to make the jump? Yes AND No. Wherever you are you will need to take the good with the bad.
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#56
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What a dǔche that guy was. I do remember him saying very similar words to what you paraphrased. Seeing what DEN has grown into now......yeah he was wrong...,Thank God he was forced to resign.
In a related story the very thing that made him resign (using a money losing flight to Columbia,Sc for quid pro quo to have PANYNJ extend the PATH train to EWR)
......was actually a good idea and would have benefited thousands of travelers and employees alike. Is now an idea being thrown around North Jersey political and civic circles. Oh the Irony.
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Seeing what DEN has grown into now......yeah he was wrong...,Thank God he was forced to resign.
I'll bet Bill Murray loved that flight.
#58
What a dǔche that guy was. I do remember him saying very similar words to what you paraphrased. Seeing what DEN has grown into now......yeah he was wrong...,Thank God he was forced to resign.
In a related story the very thing that made him resign (using a money losing flight to Columbia,Sc for quid pro quo to have PANYNJ extend the PATH train to EWR)
......was actually a good idea and would have benefited thousands of travelers and employees alike. Is now an idea being thrown around North Jersey political and civic circles. Oh the Irony.
In a related story the very thing that made him resign (using a money losing flight to Columbia,Sc for quid pro quo to have PANYNJ extend the PATH train to EWR)
......was actually a good idea and would have benefited thousands of travelers and employees alike. Is now an idea being thrown around North Jersey political and civic circles. Oh the Irony.
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From: MD-11 FO
I remember hearing stories of him having to walk around the terminals with a security detail. It wasn't because of labor, but because of the passengers. When they recognized it was Count Chocula from the safety video, they laid into him!
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5 years into Brown and I’m thinking about leaving, mostly just because I miss flying pax, layovers and being treated like an airline pilot and not an hourly.
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