Boeing to try to certify Max7/10 this year
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This right here. Military planes aren’t technically FAA certified. The military gets what the military wants because it doesn’t have that red tape from the FAA.
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They also weren't concerned about somebody being able to fly the P-3 and the P-8 on the same trip!!! Definitely a different "bid position."
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In the anti-ice case I think it's silly since it doesn't matter if you leave it on with the CFM-56 so just add logic and a sensor to turn it off on the Max. The procedure can stay exactly the same and the computer will protect against inattention.
The certification authorities are making them provide 3 AOA sensors standard so making them add an ice detector or an over temp sensor isn't too big a deal.
We're going to be flying this junk until the single pilot version comes out so we may as well pressure them to make it right and retrofit the rest of the fleet.
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I think from a human factors standpoint that's the biggest issue.
In the anti-ice case I think it's silly since it doesn't matter if you leave it on with the CFM-56 so just add logic and a sensor to turn it off on the Max. The procedure can stay exactly the same and the computer will protect against inattention.
The certification authorities are making them provide 3 AOA sensors standard so making them add an ice detector or an over temp sensor isn't too big a deal.
We're going to be flying this junk until the single pilot version comes out so we may as well pressure them to make it right and retrofit the rest of the fleet.
In the anti-ice case I think it's silly since it doesn't matter if you leave it on with the CFM-56 so just add logic and a sensor to turn it off on the Max. The procedure can stay exactly the same and the computer will protect against inattention.
The certification authorities are making them provide 3 AOA sensors standard so making them add an ice detector or an over temp sensor isn't too big a deal.
We're going to be flying this junk until the single pilot version comes out so we may as well pressure them to make it right and retrofit the rest of the fleet.
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I've been hearing about single pilot planes being "just around the corner" since I was hired here over 30 years ago.
They would first have to design and build a pilotless plane that could fit into the existing ATC infrastructure. That's probably a decade or more away. Right now Boeing and Airbus are selling almost every plane they make so there's not a lot of incentive to spend money on something like this.
Also the cost of the plane would likely far outweight the operating costs of an existing design build and the cost of pilots. Keep in mind that any new pilotless plane has a whole new set of costs.
If the FAA isn't certifying the MAX 7/10 for some minor stuff, they aren't just going to run out and certify a plane without pilots without years of testing, which most manufacturers won't want to do. As long as Boeing keeps building 2 pilot planes, we will need 2 pilots to fly them.
They would first have to design and build a pilotless plane that could fit into the existing ATC infrastructure. That's probably a decade or more away. Right now Boeing and Airbus are selling almost every plane they make so there's not a lot of incentive to spend money on something like this.
Also the cost of the plane would likely far outweight the operating costs of an existing design build and the cost of pilots. Keep in mind that any new pilotless plane has a whole new set of costs.
If the FAA isn't certifying the MAX 7/10 for some minor stuff, they aren't just going to run out and certify a plane without pilots without years of testing, which most manufacturers won't want to do. As long as Boeing keeps building 2 pilot planes, we will need 2 pilots to fly them.
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