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02-06-2011 | 02:00 PM

#51

Boneman

I love my job!

Joined: Jan 2006

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From: B757 Capt

Quote:

Originally Posted by MILUAL

Boy, I have to say that watching these SLIs in the industry is making me so ****ed that our early founders did not have the foresight of a national seniority list. You have SWA guys wanting to staple Air Tran guys and republic regional guys trying to steal airbus seats from Frontier guys. How many pilots careers have to be screwed over time and time again for the stupidity of management?? Now let's see how our SLI goes..................... I would like to punch wolfe, goodwin, and tilton in the nuts right about now....oh, and whiteford and pierce too.

sorry, just venting...

Highly unlikely the AirTran guys/gals will be stapled. A Public Law was passed in 2007, Public Law 110-161 (during the Delta/Northwest merger), that states:

“insofar as the merger affects the seniority rights of the carriers’ employees, provisions shall be made for the integration of seniority lists in a fair and equitable manner, including, where applicable, agreement through collective bargaining between the carriers and representatives of the employees affected. In the event of failure to agree, the dispute may be submitted by either party for adjustment in accordance with section 13.”

You can read more here.

02-07-2011 | 02:22 PM

#52

Swin

On Reserve

Joined: Feb 2011

Posts: 13

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From: Top bunk

Threads disappeared?

So, does anyone know where the OTHER two main threads in this CAL/UAL Merger sub-forum went? I clicked on the ink in one of the posts in this thread and it went nowhere. Sure enough, that thread has disappeared, as has another!

I was just beginning to enjoy watching other pilots come out of the woodwork to challenge Jockstrap 257, and was quite amused by his new defensive posture.

So, does this happen often? Where the most read and posted threads suddenly disappear? I'm new here, so I have no idea how things work on this Forum.

Thanks for any answers.

Toodles

P.S. The threads were "Swin & Spin" and "UAL MEC Forum Closed" or something very close to that.

02-07-2011 | 02:56 PM

#53

LeeFXDWG

Gets Weekends Off

Joined: Feb 2006

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From: B737 CAPT IAH

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Originally Posted by Swin

Didn't read them, other than the first few posts when the Forum issue occurred. Perhaps they got a little out of line even for this non ALPA sponsored board. If names were being thrown around and the like, I could see them being pulled.

Besides, do you really want a thread dedicated to you (Swin & Spin)?

Take care Neil,

Lee

02-07-2011 | 04:57 PM

#54

krudawg

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Joined: Jun 2010

Posts: 943

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From: 747 Captain, retired

I thought you were responsible for the removal.

02-08-2011 | 12:23 PM

#55

SpecialTracking

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Joined: Nov 2010

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lambourne

Please take your own advice and walk away as you qualify for the terms you provide above. Can't say anyone is going to miss you. This forum was so much nicer when you were elsewhere.

L

Whether you agree or disagree with his position, he came here to defend himself after others made accusations against him.

02-09-2011 | 01:07 PM

#56

HSLD

APC co-founder

Joined: Feb 2005

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From: B777

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swin

If you re-visit the forum rules you'll see that we reserve the right to remove any post for any reason, although those simple rules guide moderator decision and action. Both threads in question were deleted after they degraded into personal attacks and flamebait, and showed no signs of returning to the thread topic.

Long-time users of the forum know that we'll provide the platform along with an extraordinarily wide latitude to express unpopular opinions. However, when the debate turns personal we'll pull the plug on a thread every time.

The best advice for a new user is to attack the argument, not the person. APC is definitely not the venue for UAL-MEC style threads.

02-09-2011 | 02:04 PM

#57

Swin

On Reserve

Joined: Feb 2011

Posts: 13

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From: Top bunk

Could have saved us ALL (especially me) quite a few posts if you had stepped in when it first started. Sorry, I felt the need to defend myself against the personal attacks. Next time, do I just drop you a note, or is there a link to report posts?

Not to worry, though, as the newbie from the UAL MEC Forum, I did not take it personally!

Thanks for resuming normal service.

02-09-2011 | 03:07 PM

#58

HSLD

APC co-founder

Joined: Feb 2005

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From: B777

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swin

Thanks for resuming normal service.

Yes absolutely! If you find a post that looks like it's crossing the line with respect to the forum rules, just use the report bad post tool (exactly the same as on the UAL MEC forum). The report post icon looks like an upside down yield sign, and is located under the user name in the post. Clicking the icon and providing a bit of information will put the post into the moderation que.

02-10-2011 | 07:30 AM

#59

A320

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Joined: Dec 2010

Posts: 650

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From: 787 Capt.

What happens if every LCA decides to not do IOEs until the JCBA is hammered out. That will grind this place to a halt especially when our 65ers start golfing more. If the company thinks dragging their feet saves them money just wait till they see a bunch of 787s collecting dust in Victorville wih hefty lease payments.