WorldTraveler

No reason give, just this resolution. It is back up but only as a read only news site.

Therefore Be It Resolved, The UAL MEC directs the Communications Committee to immediately block access to the Forum and pull down all past posts that do not comply with the conditions stated below, and then unblock access to the Forum with the conditions stated below,

The MEC directs the Master Chairman to limit posting privileges on the UAL MEC Forum to MEC Officers and MEC Committee Chairmen and others at the discretion of the Master Chairman for the purpose of disseminating Committee reports and information determined appropriate by the MEC Officers,

Be It Further Resolved, The UAL MEC will reinstate posting privileges for all United Airline Pilots after the MEC accepts a Joint Collective Tentative Agreement (i.e. before the Membership Ratification process) or after the NMB proffers arbitration.
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Questions regarding this resolution should be directed to your Council officers.

WorldTraveler

General question if United mainline flies all RJ's:

What do we do with our fellow union members who are currently flying those airplanes? Fire them? Buy the express carrier andmerge them in?Offer them preferential hiring? With or without seniority?

dosbo

If those aircraft come back to United then, if said regional pilot is ALPA offer them preferential hiring at all ALPA carriers not just United.

Keep in mind that there is no way they should be merged or integrated with seniority on our list with any seniority greater than that of our most junior furloughed pilot. That would be an insult to all of the 1437 that are currently furlouged to have a regional pilot, that our jobs were outsourced to, placed above a pilot on the current UniCon seniority list. That would be completely unacceptable.

SpecialTracking

I was referring to whether or not cal had a forum.

EWRflyr

Yes, we did and it was shut down.

See my post (#41) at the top of page 5 of this thread:

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ca...-closed-5.html

Essentially, the MEC published a bulletin that said what I referred to in my post. The actions of a few had turned the forum into less of the information flow the MEC intended when it was established. Personal attacks, thread hijacks, etc. took over the site to the point where the MEC officers and representatives pretty much stopped posting.

Scott Stoops

First and foremost - we look after the jobs of our UniCal brethren- active, furloughed and pooled (should we get to that point in the hiring process) - period.

Clearly, we would have some brotherly obligation to negotiate some sort of preferential interview as could be negotiated (not a guaranteed job by any means). I mean, honestly, as a result of the outsourcing that we've allowed (arguably forced through the corrupt bankruptcy process) we've absolutely hosed our own. We need to be far more concerned about taking care of those on the property and on the list before we even consider those on the outside looking in. JMHO, of course.

FWIW, if we're somehow miraculously able to do so within a relatively short effective timeframe (less than 7-10 years), I think that we'll have very little need to exert influence in the process. We'll be looking for the most qualified pilots to fill seats, and the RJ Captains will be a great fit for mainline pilot seats. No doubt there...

Scott

cadetdrivr

They should expect --are are owed-- exactly the identical treatment that our furloughed, down-gauged, and bumped mainline union brothers and sisters received: nothing.

Since it was only business and nothing personal when they accepted jobs flying for United Express carriers, it is nothing personal and only business when those positions go away. Live by the sword and die by the sword.

They can apply for a job and if competitive be welcomed with open arms at the bottom of the mainline list just like any other new-hire.

I would certainly accept a different process if a real flow-through/flow-back program existed, but offering 10-year furloughed United pilots jobs at the bottom of the Skywest or Go Jet list (even at 2nd year pay) certainly explains the relationship in black and white.

AxlF16

I was nodding my cranium in agreement with the posts preceding yours... UNTIL I read yours! You are dead right with this post. Although I'm not furloughed, I remember cringing with disgust at the explanation of why our guys couldn't 'flow back' into the left seat of the RJs -- totally different companies, different hiring processes/requirments, we don't control them, ect... I've gotta say that I agree with you.

Coto Pilot

Great post, but it is not 10 years guys, I am over 11 and we have guys that will be coming up on 12 years.

Sonny Crockett

I'm coming up on 12 years.......