Unical Retirements
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Or how about all the furloughed folk who see the routes (ORD-FLL for example), they once flew now flown by CAL recalls. This crap started a couple years ago, lets not forget that.
I have no beef with my CAL brethren, I know they hate this as well and never asked for it either. But until a JCBA and SLI, it is just more teleportation of career existence/expectations from one side to the other, CAL being the obvious net winner. With all respect, I think the more senior you are the less you realize how big a hit this has been.
Next we will have CAL planes parked and probably more UAL furloughs (maybe some of us for the 3rd time-yeah). Don't get me wrong, the fight should not be between us, but world peace means nothing when your entire career has been stripped away. Anything less than meaningful contract restoration and fair SLI integration is pretty much useless kumbaya mantra.
I just want my frickin career back, you know the one that started 12 years ago. I'm sure 1436 others would agree.
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I have no beef with my CAL brethren, I know they hate this as well and never asked for it either. But until a JCBA and SLI, it is just more teleportation of career existence/expectations from one side to the other, CAL being the obvious net winner. With all respect, I think the more senior you are the less you realize how big a hit this has been.
Next we will have CAL planes parked and probably more UAL furloughs (maybe some of us for the 3rd time-yeah). Don't get me wrong, the fight should not be between us, but world peace means nothing when your entire career has been stripped away. Anything less than meaningful contract restoration and fair SLI integration is pretty much useless kumbaya mantra.
I just want my frickin career back, you know the one that started 12 years ago. I'm sure 1436 others would agree.
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Kc
#72
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Hey that's my line! I've been calling CAL that for quite a while, 1999..5200 pilots, 2011....4800 pilots. UAL.....I know it's much worse so combined we are doing great! Sarcasm engaged.
#73
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#75
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Actually it created waaaaay more jobs for non alpa brethren. Pretty sad we give oir jobs away. Its like domestically outsourcing our jobs to other union pilots. Fn brilliant and fn sad
#76
It's a win for ALPA.
It's a win for all the new RJ pilots who get to fly shiny new jets with minimal experience.
The only group opposed to this has been dramatically shrinking over the past 10 years. Don't underestimate how much of a fight this is going to be.
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AIRLINE Retirements (2012-2025) Active Pilots (2011) Percentage of List United 3509 6294 55% Continential 2416 4714 45% United (Merged) 5925 11008 53% Delta 6797 12160 55% American 6283 9511 66% Southwest 2165 5887 36% Airtran 356 1742 20% Southwest (Merged) 2521 7629 33%
#78
there certainly has to be a % of out on medicals that may be significant...?
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