Who lost What?
11-21-2011 | 08:12 AM
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Who lost What?
I remember all too well what we gave up, in $/hour (pension & work rules are another story): 30%, plus the loss from pay-banding in '03, then another 11.8% in '05. For me as a 'Bus captain, that was 48.8%
Does anyone remember what % the other employee groups ended up giving back after the second round?
The company is in the "divide and conquer" mode, and when the F/As, rampers, and gate agents start with their whining, I want to be able to quantify who gave up what, which should help them align their expectations.
TW, S-UAL or whatever the stupid acronym is today.
Does anyone remember what % the other employee groups ended up giving back after the second round?
The company is in the "divide and conquer" mode, and when the F/As, rampers, and gate agents start with their whining, I want to be able to quantify who gave up what, which should help them align their expectations.
TW, S-UAL or whatever the stupid acronym is today.
11-22-2011 | 07:25 AM
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11-22-2011 | 08:21 AM
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The second round produced as follows, pilots/11.8%, mechanics/9.8%, f/as/9.5%, gate agents and ground staff/11.5%.
Still looking for round one.
11-23-2011 | 08:05 AM
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I'm looking for numbers. My sympathies to those who lost, whether it was 41.2% or 100%x2.
My objective is to get cold hard numbers though, not start a complaint sheet. I've got a few complaint sheet items myself, but not here.
Thanks, guys & gals
TW
My objective is to get cold hard numbers though, not start a complaint sheet. I've got a few complaint sheet items myself, but not here.
Thanks, guys & gals
TW
11-24-2011 | 05:54 AM
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First, happy thanksgiving to all.
You asked for what was lost from each employee group and longevity is a huge 'cold hard number' for us furloughees. C2003 wiped out the furlough protections in C2000 (which were blatantly ignored after 9/11 anyway). The actual amount obviously varies between individuals, but for me after the first furlough, it was 20% less pay because of longevity lost (others were much higher). For this furlough, it's also dependent on when individuals return. I'm approaching my 12th year, but I would be paid 7 year pay...does that count as 'cold hard number' or is it just a 'complaint sheet'?
You asked for what was lost from each employee group and longevity is a huge 'cold hard number' for us furloughees. C2003 wiped out the furlough protections in C2000 (which were blatantly ignored after 9/11 anyway). The actual amount obviously varies between individuals, but for me after the first furlough, it was 20% less pay because of longevity lost (others were much higher). For this furlough, it's also dependent on when individuals return. I'm approaching my 12th year, but I would be paid 7 year pay...does that count as 'cold hard number' or is it just a 'complaint sheet'?
11-24-2011 | 01:13 PM
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First, happy thanksgiving to all.
You asked for what was lost from each employee group and longevity is a huge 'cold hard number' for us furloughees. C2003 wiped out the furlough protections in C2000 (which were blatantly ignored after 9/11 anyway). The actual amount obviously varies between individuals, but for me after the first furlough, it was 20% less pay because of longevity lost (others were much higher). For this furlough, it's also dependent on when individuals return. I'm approaching my 12th year, but I would be paid 7 year pay...does that count as 'cold hard number' or is it just a 'complaint sheet'?
You asked for what was lost from each employee group and longevity is a huge 'cold hard number' for us furloughees. C2003 wiped out the furlough protections in C2000 (which were blatantly ignored after 9/11 anyway). The actual amount obviously varies between individuals, but for me after the first furlough, it was 20% less pay because of longevity lost (others were much higher). For this furlough, it's also dependent on when individuals return. I'm approaching my 12th year, but I would be paid 7 year pay...does that count as 'cold hard number' or is it just a 'complaint sheet'?
So, I'd say your info is "complaint sheet" stuff, not that it's any easier to deal with. Beer's on me when you come back, as it will be for any other furloughees.
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