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Old 01-29-2012 | 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by dexim
Yes, you are spot on - CAL people are getting more at the expense of the UAL people. They want all the benefits earned on the backs of others and at the same time they are not willing to standup for what's right.
I have to ask, what is your motivation? because you are sounding more and more like a PAID "Internet Troll". Did UCH put you up to this, are you working for Fred Abbott and hid well oil machine working overtime to derail our efforts? If not then my apologies.

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Old 01-29-2012 | 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by gettinbumped
I could be waaaayyyyy out in left field here, but I believe our profit sharing results were split out last year. UAL employees got paid on L-UAL's profits, and CAL employees got paid on L-CAL's profits. UAL did better financially than CAL did last year, so we got a higher percentage PS figure. This year, the financials are combined, so combining the two employee pools will dilute the results; ie, the NEW UAL didn't do as well financially as the L-UAL so the L-UAL employees get less. The NEW UAL did better than L-CAL so L-CAL will get more.

The financials weren't reported that way when they announced the PS percentage so you are just speculating.
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Old 01-29-2012 | 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by LeeMat
I have to ask, what is your motivation? because you are sounding more and more like a PAID "Internet Troll". Did UCH put you up to this, are you working for Fred Abbott and hid well oil machine working overtime to derail our efforts? If not then my apologies and I hope you get the big picture and get on board the unity train soon.
Simply trying to get the CAL guys moving in a direction that benefits all. The CAL guys are more aligned with the company than the UAL guys. We tried to build a bridge and they started digging a tunnel. The CAL guys seem to think the actions of Pierce, over the past couple on month, are right and justified. You talk about unity - The high road didn't work.

If you want to be **** buddies with these guys go ahead - I won't! The price is to high.
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Old 01-29-2012 | 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by dexim
Simply trying to get the CAL guys moving in a direction that benefits all. The CAL guys are more aligned with the company than the UAL guys. We tried to build a bridge and they started digging a tunnel. The CAL guys seem to think the actions of Pierce, over the past couple on month, are right and justified. You talk about unity - The high road didn't work.

If you want to be **** buddies with these guys go ahead - I won't! The price is to high.
I agree that JP did not act in unity. That being said your continue attacks on the CAL pilots as a group does the same harm to our unity efforts...There are many CAL pilot whom I have talked to that did not like the whole PS mess and how it all worked out....I said this bofore and I will say it again. I am glad that the CAL pilots got their much deserve share of the PS, but not how it was obtained via an individual side deal....
As L-UAL pilots you and I can not do anything about JP, the L- CAL pilots can...Lets all work together to help keep the rogue MEC members in check..If you are a United pilot then you know how much harm a rogue MC can cause ala Paul W. and the RJ side letter...
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Old 01-29-2012 | 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by dexim
Simply trying to get the CAL guys moving in a direction that benefits all.
The fact that you believe for one moment you could influence anyone is ludicrous at best.

The CAL guys are more aligned with the company than the UAL guys.
We receive PS and now we're all company men according to dexim. As an aside, I'm curious why you didn't just run your company out of business. Did you waver in the eleventh hour concerned about yourself?


We tried to build a bridge and they started digging a tunnel
Actually we have our own bridge (no tunnel) and you're more than welcome to cross it. Granted it is a toll bridge in that we require you to check your WAY overrated, self-promoting, and nonsensical ego at the success booth.

The CAL guys seem to think the actions of Pierce, over the past couple on month, are right and justified. You talk about unity - The high road didn't work.
Capt. Pierce did an excellent job. Sorry you are having difficulty understanding all the nuances in determining the best course of action but it really doesn't matter what you think anyway. Quite frankly we are not interested in your perceived high road. We are accustomed to a higher road and look forward to seeing you on it.

If you want to be **** buddies with these guys go ahead - I won't! The price is to high.
Ah, I love idealists, the tortured souls that they are.
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Old 01-29-2012 | 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by LeeMat
I agree that JP did not act in unity. That being said your continue attacks on the CAL pilots as a group does the same harm to our unity efforts...There are many CAL pilot whom I have talked to that did not like the whole PS mess and how it all worked out....I said this bofore and I will say it again. I am glad that the CAL pilots got their much deserve share of the PS, but not how it was obtained via an individual side deal....
As L-UAL pilots you and I can not do anything about JP, the L- CAL pilots can...Lets all work together to help keep the rogue MEC members in check..If you are a United pilot then you know how much harm a rogue MC can cause ala Paul W. and the RJ side letter...
You didn't like the way it turned out? Please.......



If the profit was the same as the year before then it should have been 5.9% again but it wasn't. It was actually more It is now 5%. That is a reduction. That's ok though because I am 20 minutes away from burning a sizable part of my PS check out the tailpipe.

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Old 01-29-2012 | 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Blockoutblockin
Capt. Pierce did an excellent job. Sorry you are having difficulty understanding all the nuances in determining the best course of action but it really doesn't matter what you think anyway. Quite frankly we are not interested in your perceived high road. We are accustomed to a higher road and look forward to seeing you on it.
Good to see it's still all about you............
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Old 01-29-2012 | 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by LeeMat
I agree that JP did not act in unity. That being said your continue attacks on the CAL pilots as a group does the same harm to our unity efforts...There are many CAL pilot whom I have talked to that did not like the whole PS mess and how it all worked out....I said this bofore and I will say it again. I am glad that the CAL pilots got their much deserve share of the PS, but not how it was obtained via an individual side deal....
As L-UAL pilots you and I can not do anything about JP, the L- CAL pilots can...Lets all work together to help keep the rogue MEC members in check..If you are a United pilot then you know how much harm a rogue MC can cause ala Paul W. and the RJ side letter...
It's not about the PS. It's about the mindset of the CAL guys in their support of Pierce as he does the company bidding. Pierce=Whiteford.
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Old 01-29-2012 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by A320
You didn't like the way it turned out? Please.......



If the profit was the same as the year before then it should have been 5.9% again but it wasn't. It was actually more It is now 5%. That is a reduction. That's ok though because I am 20 minutes away from burning my a sizable part of my PS check out the tailpipe.
I have asked about the 5% vs 5.9% and was told that our share (pilots), will be higher than the others just like last year...We will soon find out....My strike fund will be a bit larger regardless...
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Old 01-29-2012 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by LeeMat
I have asked about the 5% vs 5.9% and was told that our share (pilots), will be higher than the others just like last year...We will soon find out....My strike fund will be a bit larger regardless...


You asked who, your magic 8 Ball? When someone says it "Should be" means it won't be. For the record all eligible LUAL employees last year received the same percentage with the exception being Jeff and the boys.
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