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Old 01-29-2012 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by dexim
Let me get this straight - You want me to forgive Pierce. Let him dump of the UAL pilots again so you can get a pay raise. Sorry, NO!
OK, great.

Keep whining about the CAL MEC Chair. Don't clean up your own mess that is the UAL MEC. Go all USAPA on us, making it "us versus them" rather than "we". Keep making $35 grand per year less than Delta guys on the same equipment. Keep making Smisek's job easy and yours more difficult. Genius!

Or you could take a Midol, get over your "feelings" and raise the bar. That's a lot harder, but I think you can "girl up" and do it!

You make a heckuva keyboard warrior...
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Old 01-29-2012 | 10:46 AM
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OK, great.

You make a heckuva keyboard warrior...
How did you get over 1600 post? Letting others do the work and jumping in to take credit. Sounds like you play from the CAL MEC playbook. I do think you're trying to get my goat. Keep plugging - I'll compare anything you got or want to compare. How many have you got kick off the forum by baiting - talk about keyboard warrior............... Not on Sunday!
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Old 01-29-2012 | 11:03 AM
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He has been here longer then just two months unlike you, dexim. You have shown up to offer nothing but complaining about the CAL MEC.
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Old 01-29-2012 | 12:45 PM
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The 2010 LUal profit sharing was larger than 2010 Lcal because ALL the merger fees were charged to Cal. Now it looks like the fees are shared and thus the profit on which 2011 PS is based is the same.

The amount of PS received by LUal pilots would not be any greater if Lcal pilots did not receive PS. The Lcal money would simply go back to the company.

Whether I agree with JP on how the PS issue was resolved, is besides the point when considering the % or the dollar amount that LUal pilots receive on 2/14/12. That is for another thread.

This company COULD be one heck of an airline if we get someone with some vision to run this company.

I look forward to that day
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Old 01-29-2012 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by dexim
How did you get over 1600 post? Letting others do the work and jumping in to take credit. Sounds like you play from the CAL MEC playbook. I do think you're trying to get my goat. Keep plugging - I'll compare anything you got or want to compare. How many have you got kick off the forum by baiting - talk about keyboard warrior............... Not on Sunday!
OK....

Please compare the payraise that you've gotten since your merger.

Please compare the equity you've gotten since your merger.

Please compare the number of new hires you've had since your merger.

Now I get not all of that is credited to pilot leadership. What you apparently don't get is that all of that can be spoiled by bad pilot leadership. Based on both MEC's behavior, you guys would rather practice cannibalistic tribalism than find a deal that meets the needs of your pilots.

How long have your two MEC's been in Section 6? How many picketing events? How many injunctions?

Put your sights on your goal, not on each other.

If you consider this post flame bait, look in the mirror real hard.
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Old 01-29-2012 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CleCapt
The 2010 LUal profit sharing was larger than 2010 Lcal because ALL the merger fees were charged to Cal. Now it looks like the fees are shared and thus the profit on which 2011 PS is based is the same.

The amount of PS received by LUal pilots would not be any greater if Lcal pilots did not receive PS. The Lcal money would simply go back to the company.

Whether I agree with JP on how the PS issue was resolved, is besides the point when considering the % or the dollar amount that LUal pilots receive on 2/14/12. That is for another thread.

This company COULD be one heck of an airline if we get someone with some vision to run this company.

I look forward to that day


You are saying that all merger fees were paid by LCAL and that is why your total profit was less than LUAL. HMMMMM
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Old 01-29-2012 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by A320
You are saying that all merger fees were paid by LCAL and that is why your total profit was less than LUAL. HMMMMM
Yes, I am.
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Old 01-29-2012 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
OK....

Please compare the payraise that you've gotten since your merger.

Please compare the equity you've gotten since your merger.

Please compare the number of new hires you've had since your merger.

Now I get not all of that is credited to pilot leadership. What you apparently don't get is that all of that can be spoiled by bad pilot leadership. Based on both MEC's behavior, you guys would rather practice cannibalistic tribalism than find a deal that meets the needs of your pilots.

How long have your two MEC's been in Section 6? How many picketing events? How many injunctions?

Put your sights on your goal, not on each other.

If you consider this post flame bait, look in the mirror real hard.
I don't think you know any of the history of the 2 groups over the last year or UAL history since 911. I'm not even going to try explain it to you. Read the other post on this forum if you're really that interested. The UAL MEC is currently tolerating Pierce - no respect for him or his actions. You want to place blame on everbody except the guy that created this problem. Ask Pierce to make it right and I'll never post again on him or the subject. You can live with that can't you.
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Old 01-29-2012 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by CleCapt
Yes, I am.

Please provide a link. So you are hunkydory with getting a 28% increase in PS this year over last and feel the same with the LUAL Side getting 15%less? Just another example of the Texas Air Entitlement Mentality. I'm sure you would even rationalize transferring our assets to your side if the operations by expressing how superior your side is.

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Old 01-29-2012 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by CleCapt
The 2010 LUal profit sharing was larger than 2010 Lcal because ALL the merger fees were charged to Cal. Now it looks like the fees are shared and thus the profit on which 2011 PS is based is the same.

The amount of PS received by LUal pilots would not be any greater if Lcal pilots did not receive PS. The Lcal money would simply go back to the company.

Whether I agree with JP on how the PS issue was resolved, is besides the point when considering the % or the dollar amount that LUal pilots receive on 2/14/12. That is for another thread.

This company COULD be one heck of an airline if we get someone with some vision to run this company.

I look forward to that day
Wait, was your profit sharing pay last year based on operating profit or net profit? I was under the impression that special charges were NOT used in the formula to keep the company from fudging the numbers

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