Will UAL Really hire this year?
03-13-2012 | 06:59 AM
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My thoughts as well when I heard that. Oil ALWAYS spikes between March and May. Which is why I always buy USO stock on March first and sell it May first.
03-13-2012 | 07:38 AM
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I keep on hearing conflicting things
I hear that United has so many furloughs left but then I hear that CAL has growth for next year and a ton of retirements coming up. I also hear that furlough acceptance rate is only about 1 for every 6.
Who will do the actual hiring? Will it still be on Airline apps?
I hear that United has so many furloughs left but then I hear that CAL has growth for next year and a ton of retirements coming up. I also hear that furlough acceptance rate is only about 1 for every 6.
Who will do the actual hiring? Will it still be on Airline apps?
The one wildcard that I don't know about is, do they go through the UAL furlough list a second (and final) time? That's the way CAL did it when they recalled their own furloughs. If they do that, they'll get more takers second time around and it will delay street hires. But with the 787s, more 737s arriving, and retirements, I think they'll be training new hires for the next few years. Street hires are inevitable in the near future.
03-13-2012 | 07:44 AM
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The one wildcard that I don't know about is, do they go through the UAL furlough list a second (and final) time? That's the way CAL did it when they recalled their own furloughs. If they do that, they'll get more takers second time around and it will delay street hires. But with the 787s, more 737s arriving, and retirements, I think they'll be training new hires for the next few years.
Again, this is not a recall. It is a lukewarm newhire opportunity ala Mesa or Skywest. There is no penalty for telling LCAL thanks, but no thanks....
03-13-2012 | 08:15 AM
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In fact there is no penalty for taking the LCAL offer, getting current, quitting, and accepting a UAL recall in the future. (Just saying.)
For APC225, LCAL does not go through the list a second time. Anybody that previously declined the offer can simply make a call to start the process anytime LCAL is hiring prior to ISL.
03-13-2012 | 08:16 AM
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What potentially could occur is United Furloughees opting to re-enter the process once LCAL is hiring off of the streets. I assume that they would retain their seniority rights relative to the any new hires. If anybody has further information on this, please post it.
03-13-2012 | 08:20 AM
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The TPA is pretty clear that L-UAL furloughees retain relative seniority with other L-UAL furloughees. This is also why we might see some of the more 'senior' (cough) furloughees take the offer once their % on the list is better.
03-13-2012 | 08:46 AM
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Thanks. I was careful to not use the "recall" word reference UAL pilots but not careful enough. I used it in reference to CAL pilots only on their recent furloughs being given a second chance, and this "second chance" might also apply to UAL pilots, though not in their case as a "recall"--although that has also been answered here, no second run through of the list, but rather the UAL pilot may get a second opportunity by asking for it.
There is no recall. Sorry for any misunderstanding on that.
As to the original question by PinnacleFO, since there is no comprehinsive second pass on the UAL furlough list, the street hires will happen sooner rather than later.
There is no recall. Sorry for any misunderstanding on that.
As to the original question by PinnacleFO, since there is no comprehinsive second pass on the UAL furlough list, the street hires will happen sooner rather than later.
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