Will UAL Really hire this year?
#41
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1. Cal is 50% of the merger? Surely by mere numbers of pilots and planes u jest.
2. Ual has some heroes, but jesus christ, the cal heroes faaaarrrrr outnumber the ual heroes. I dont know about cal pilots but i want to get paid a higher wage AND have a quality of life- not sacrificing one for the other
3. Are we still calling it a merger of equals or did ual buy cal for $23/share or something like that
4. Goin to cal isnt a recall , its a new hire opportunity with possible a higher payrate- nothing more.
5. Just bc i was furloughed at ual, u honestly think i didnt have a better career progression than a similar positioned pilot at cal? Really ?
6. If ual/ cal didnt merge, do u honestly think ual wouldve parked 100 planes? Really? Parking the same type cal was taking a plethora ( el juapo) of?
7. Ur reserve system is abysmal and worse than some regional airlines.
8. The bickering, heroing, and hoaring needs to stop. *** do u need > 100 hrs of pay every month? Regardless of which side u work for there are furloughs- and the unwritten rule is to NOT pick up open time when there are furloughs
2. Ual has some heroes, but jesus christ, the cal heroes faaaarrrrr outnumber the ual heroes. I dont know about cal pilots but i want to get paid a higher wage AND have a quality of life- not sacrificing one for the other
3. Are we still calling it a merger of equals or did ual buy cal for $23/share or something like that
4. Goin to cal isnt a recall , its a new hire opportunity with possible a higher payrate- nothing more.
5. Just bc i was furloughed at ual, u honestly think i didnt have a better career progression than a similar positioned pilot at cal? Really ?
6. If ual/ cal didnt merge, do u honestly think ual wouldve parked 100 planes? Really? Parking the same type cal was taking a plethora ( el juapo) of?
7. Ur reserve system is abysmal and worse than some regional airlines.
8. The bickering, heroing, and hoaring needs to stop. *** do u need > 100 hrs of pay every month? Regardless of which side u work for there are furloughs- and the unwritten rule is to NOT pick up open time when there are furloughs
#42
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From: IAH 737 CA
1. Cal is 50% of the merger? Surely by mere numbers of pilots and planes u jest.
2. Ual has some heroes, but jesus christ, the cal heroes faaaarrrrr outnumber the ual heroes. I dont know about cal pilots but i want to get paid a higher wage AND have a quality of life- not sacrificing one for the other
3. Are we still calling it a merger of equals or did ual buy cal for $23/share or something like that
4. Goin to cal isnt a recall , its a new hire opportunity with possible a higher payrate- nothing more.
5. Just bc i was furloughed at ual, u honestly think i didnt have a better career progression than a similar positioned pilot at cal? Really ?
6. If ual/ cal didnt merge, do u honestly think ual wouldve parked 100 planes? Really? Parking the same type cal was taking a plethora ( el juapo) of?
7. Ur reserve system is abysmal and worse than some regional airlines.
8. The bickering, heroing, and hoaring needs to stop. *** do u need > 100 hrs of pay every month? Regardless of which side u work for there are furloughs- and the unwritten rule is to NOT pick up open time when there are furloughs
2. Ual has some heroes, but jesus christ, the cal heroes faaaarrrrr outnumber the ual heroes. I dont know about cal pilots but i want to get paid a higher wage AND have a quality of life- not sacrificing one for the other
3. Are we still calling it a merger of equals or did ual buy cal for $23/share or something like that
4. Goin to cal isnt a recall , its a new hire opportunity with possible a higher payrate- nothing more.
5. Just bc i was furloughed at ual, u honestly think i didnt have a better career progression than a similar positioned pilot at cal? Really ?
6. If ual/ cal didnt merge, do u honestly think ual wouldve parked 100 planes? Really? Parking the same type cal was taking a plethora ( el juapo) of?
7. Ur reserve system is abysmal and worse than some regional airlines.
8. The bickering, heroing, and hoaring needs to stop. *** do u need > 100 hrs of pay every month? Regardless of which side u work for there are furloughs- and the unwritten rule is to NOT pick up open time when there are furloughs
1. Who cares. It's done.
2. Call a spade a spade. If you don't have the data from both sides to back it up, don't post your assumptions.
3. Who cares again. It's done.
4. So take the $30 hr job at Jetblue.
5. Can't believe you posted that with a straight face.
6. Your own guys sold you out for pay and retirement. You lost 100 a/c for 70 seaters. Stop grasping.
7. Did you take the job?
8. We have no furloughs. Or are we back to being one airline after 1-7?
#43
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Oh i see. U want to be " one airline" for profit sharing but not for anything else. Ok ur a spade.
Data? Im sure cal has more capts in right seats than ual. Im sure that more cal pilots have paychecks over 100 hrs than united.
Let me guess, ur all for pay banding?
Our bankrupt contract is nearly better than ur non bankrupt one ( besides actual pensions lost)
How can u say if we didnt merge ual would have an incredibly better contract than cal?
Arguring over all this bs is like which special ed kid is going to win the race. In the end it doesnt matter who wins, bc the winner is "special"
Data? Im sure cal has more capts in right seats than ual. Im sure that more cal pilots have paychecks over 100 hrs than united.
Let me guess, ur all for pay banding?
Our bankrupt contract is nearly better than ur non bankrupt one ( besides actual pensions lost)
How can u say if we didnt merge ual would have an incredibly better contract than cal?
Arguring over all this bs is like which special ed kid is going to win the race. In the end it doesnt matter who wins, bc the winner is "special"
Last edited by skippy; 03-08-2012 at 05:03 AM.
#44
You guys need to stop the bickering and acting like children. We are all flying for the same company. There is nothing to be gained from talking to each other like this except an infantile reputation. Knock it off.
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#48
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Thanks for the replies, but I was looking for some actual numbers. I am well aware of the number of highly qualified applicants that are lining up to get into UAL, and I am also aware that the competitive minimums will be significantly higher and will be dictated by demand and supply. I also realize that LCA and other achievements make pilots more marketable and it's not just about the hours.
Having said all that, does anyone remember what the latest posted mins were last time UAL hired pilots?
Thanks in advance for your replies
Having said all that, does anyone remember what the latest posted mins were last time UAL hired pilots?
Thanks in advance for your replies
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Thanks for the replies, but I was looking for some actual numbers. I am well aware of the number of highly qualified applicants that are lining up to get into UAL, and I am also aware that the competitive minimums will be significantly higher and will be dictated by demand and supply. I also realize that LCA and other achievements make pilots more marketable and it's not just about the hours.
Having said all that, does anyone remember what the latest posted mins were last time UAL hired pilots?
Thanks in advance for your replies
Having said all that, does anyone remember what the latest posted mins were last time UAL hired pilots?
Thanks in advance for your replies

1,500 hours fixed-wing total flight time
1,000 hours fixed-wing PIC time, or 500 hours PIC time and 500 hours SIC time in a turbojet
1,000 hours fixed-wing turbine time
1,000 hours fixed-wing multi-engine time (civilian or military) or 1,000 hours single-engine military fighter jet time
Successfull completion of the ATP written exam
A current first class FAA medical
A Bachelor's degree is highly desired
From: Continental Posts Pilot Minimums ! ! ! | Jetcareers
If you meet the mins, definitely apply. I wouldn't wait for 'competitive' mins; simply update your app on a regular basis. Last time, LCAL used airlineapps. com. You could get a start on filling out the app and then when the window opens, shoot your app in.
All the best to you.
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Since the LCAL side will be doing the off the street hiring well before LUAL, I'd look at the last LCAL mins:
1,500 hours fixed-wing total flight time
1,000 hours fixed-wing PIC time, or 500 hours PIC time and 500 hours SIC time in a turbojet
1,000 hours fixed-wing turbine time
1,000 hours fixed-wing multi-engine time (civilian or military) or 1,000 hours single-engine military fighter jet time
Successfull completion of the ATP written exam
A current first class FAA medical
A Bachelor's degree is highly desired
From: Continental Posts Pilot Minimums ! ! ! | Jetcareers
If you meet the mins, definitely apply. I wouldn't wait for 'competitive' mins; simply update your app on a regular basis. Last time, LCAL used airlineapps. com. You could get a start on filling out the app and then when the window opens, shoot your app in.
All the best to you.
1,500 hours fixed-wing total flight time
1,000 hours fixed-wing PIC time, or 500 hours PIC time and 500 hours SIC time in a turbojet
1,000 hours fixed-wing turbine time
1,000 hours fixed-wing multi-engine time (civilian or military) or 1,000 hours single-engine military fighter jet time
Successfull completion of the ATP written exam
A current first class FAA medical
A Bachelor's degree is highly desired
From: Continental Posts Pilot Minimums ! ! ! | Jetcareers
If you meet the mins, definitely apply. I wouldn't wait for 'competitive' mins; simply update your app on a regular basis. Last time, LCAL used airlineapps. com. You could get a start on filling out the app and then when the window opens, shoot your app in.
All the best to you.
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