Will UAL Really hire this year?
03-06-2012 | 04:39 PM
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Out of curiosity, until a JCBA is reached and there are two seperate lists, what would your ideal approach to staffing be if all LUAL guys decline a CAL position and positions are needed to be filled? The same thing has been happening at US Airways. Hiring out East while West still has guys on the street refusing to take slots out East.
03-06-2012 | 04:57 PM
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What's L-CAL's Captain "V" supposed to do????
IF L-CAL goes ALL the way through L-UA's Furlough List & offers every person on that list a pilot position at L-CAL per the guidelines, what is L-CAL supposed to do IF further staffing is required later this year? You can fully expect them (Abbott) to hire off the street. Questions?
Stating the obvious.....No one is holding a gun to anyone's head as far as accepting/declining the L-CAL Pilot Position. The L-CAL employment offers have NO bearing on the Furloughee's status at L-UA. The L-CAL employment offer is 100% their choice to take it, or leave it.
To be perfectly clear, and not be second guessed......WE need(ed) a JCBA yesterday.
03-06-2012 | 05:03 PM
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There is no EARTHLY reason that LCAL is growing and LUAL is shrinking both should be growing/recalling /hiring.
Can you not see what's happening here?
This is rapidly becoming CAL/EAL round two and the same scab's are still at CAL and apparently they're happy to pull a repeat. Everything is hunky dory over LCAL while here at LUAL I've been surplussed, stuffed back into the right seat on reserve and can hardly pay my bills because we can't break guarantee there isn't enough flying.
Meanwhile back at the CAL ranch guys are flying their butts off and they are short of pilots and needing to hire? REALLY something doesn't smell fishy to you?
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03-06-2012 | 05:18 PM
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"This is rapidly becoming CAL/EAL round two and the same scab's are still at CAL and apparently they're happy to pull a repeat. Everything is hunky dory over LCAL while here at LUAL I've been surplussed, stuffed back into the right seat on reserve and can hardly pay my bills because we can't break guarantee there isn't enough flying.
Meanwhile back at the CAL ranch guys are flying their butts off and they are short of pilots and needing to hire? REALLY something doesn't smell fishy to you?
UFB!! "
UAL will recall in Sept.
If you can't pay your bills then that's a spending problem, not an income problem.
Meanwhile back at the CAL ranch guys are flying their butts off and they are short of pilots and needing to hire? REALLY something doesn't smell fishy to you?
UFB!! "
UAL will recall in Sept.
If you can't pay your bills then that's a spending problem, not an income problem.
03-06-2012 | 05:20 PM
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lets not be confused with being stuffed on the bottom of the list at LCAL with a recall. What is happening at LCAL is also known as a staple. You don't see a problem with that?
There is no EARTHLY reason that LCAL is growing and LUAL is shrinking both should be growing/recalling /hiring.
Can you not see what's happening here?
This is rapidly becoming CAL/EAL round two and the same scab's are still at CAL and apparently they're happy to pull a repeat. Everything is hunky dory over LCAL while here at LUAL I've been surplussed, stuffed back into the right seat on reserve and can hardly pay my bills because we can't break guarantee there isn't enough flying.
Meanwhile back at the CAL ranch guys are flying their butts off and they are short of pilots and needing to hire? REALLY something doesn't smell fishy to you?
UFB!!
There is no EARTHLY reason that LCAL is growing and LUAL is shrinking both should be growing/recalling /hiring.
Can you not see what's happening here?
This is rapidly becoming CAL/EAL round two and the same scab's are still at CAL and apparently they're happy to pull a repeat. Everything is hunky dory over LCAL while here at LUAL I've been surplussed, stuffed back into the right seat on reserve and can hardly pay my bills because we can't break guarantee there isn't enough flying.
Meanwhile back at the CAL ranch guys are flying their butts off and they are short of pilots and needing to hire? REALLY something doesn't smell fishy to you?
UFB!!
03-06-2012 | 05:36 PM
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lets not be confused with being stuffed on the bottom of the list at LCAL with a recall. What is happening at LCAL is also known as a staple. You don't see a problem with that?
There is no EARTHLY reason that LCAL is growing and LUAL is shrinking both should be growing/recalling /hiring.
Can you not see what's happening here?
This is rapidly becoming CAL/EAL round two and the same scab's are still at CAL and apparently they're happy to pull a repeat. Everything is hunky dory over LCAL while here at LUAL I've been surplussed, stuffed back into the right seat on reserve and can hardly pay my bills because we can't break guarantee there isn't enough flying.
Meanwhile back at the CAL ranch guys are flying their butts off and they are short of pilots and needing to hire? REALLY something doesn't smell fishy to you?
UFB!!
There is no EARTHLY reason that LCAL is growing and LUAL is shrinking both should be growing/recalling /hiring.
Can you not see what's happening here?
This is rapidly becoming CAL/EAL round two and the same scab's are still at CAL and apparently they're happy to pull a repeat. Everything is hunky dory over LCAL while here at LUAL I've been surplussed, stuffed back into the right seat on reserve and can hardly pay my bills because we can't break guarantee there isn't enough flying.
Meanwhile back at the CAL ranch guys are flying their butts off and they are short of pilots and needing to hire? REALLY something doesn't smell fishy to you?
UFB!!
03-06-2012 | 05:59 PM
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03-06-2012 | 06:31 PM
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Also be aware that if you are picked up as a new hire in the fall, you will have the UAL furloughees ahead of you on the combined seniority list, and they have 10 yr recall rights from the date of furlough. You could be close to the bottom for a while as they work their way back in.
And the first out the door when these clowns decide they need to park some jets and shrink the airline again, be careful what you ask for....
03-06-2012 | 09:31 PM
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From: Sleeping in the black swan’s nest.
No disrespect intended, but this is basically a CAL forum. Very few mainline UAL pilots check-in here. If I were you, I wouldn't expect any sympathy.
My apologies for that whole post it was out of line and out of character for me.
The part about the staple however is 100% correct. Its a lousy rotten deal made to look like a measure of good faith.
If LCAL is hiring LUAL should be too there is NO REASON TO SHRINK one side and grow the other. This is absolutely a power play by our beloved co-worker. We could so easily be shifting flying around to spread the load evenly. Instead one side is critically short of plots and the other side is overstaffed!?!
GIVE ME A BREAK!!
JCBA/ISL is the answer. Will it ever happen?
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