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Old 03-27-2012, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 13n144e View Post
Congratulations on your wonderful ethos. Strange that it certainly doesn't seem to have gotten you very far. Both groups have a lock on the crappiest contracts in the industry and now share the most deluded, incompetent management since, well, Tilton and your worried about which group has the most scabs. Get over yourself. You suck. So do we. Counting scabs from nearly 30 years ago will do nothing to alleviate that.
You guys aren't under a court injunction, they're staffing the 737 with unlimited VJM, and the company is 2 years late on delivering a contract. That's the ethos I'm referring to. Stop helping them and maybe the company will believe that you really want a contract. Neither pilot group wanted this merger, but perhaps, in years to come, we can all learn to get along.
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Old 03-27-2012, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Blockoutblockin View Post
It is very difficult to get along with a douche such as
yourself
WOW!!!? ....
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Old 03-27-2012, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Pilotbiffster View Post
You guys aren't under a court injunction, they're staffing the 737 with unlimited VJM, and the company is 2 years late on delivering a contract. That's the ethos I'm referring to. Stop helping them and maybe the company will believe that you really want a contract. Neither pilot group wanted this merger, but perhaps, in years to come, we can all learn to get along.
Thanks for the patronizing lecture, but in nearly two decades I've never been junior-manned (voluntary or otherwise) and while they may be offering unlimited VJM, they're certainly not covering all the vacant flying. Your not the only pilot group to have their hands tied by your little precedent-setting injunction. The company has already threatened legal action against CALALPA at what they perceived (wrongly) as a sickout this winter. Haven't heard of you guys having that problem. I really do tire of the patronizing attitude and all the "our airline sucks less than yours" squabbling. THEY BOTH SUCK. Stop worrying about who had the most scabs and concern yourself with your own "ethos" - it'll be a lot more productive.
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Old 03-27-2012, 10:36 PM
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and it's VERY difficult getting along with an obsequious yes boy like you .. go back to doing your managers bidding like we expect you to do. We don't dislike you because you're CAL, we dislike you because you ***** yourself out to managements bidding. Come on Hamster boy, run a few more laps on the wheel. Take that VJM and help out the boss, all the while the boss doesn't give us a new contract. Just go on licking their boots like the subservient peon you are. I thank GOD that I'll never have to fly for you.
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Old 03-27-2012, 11:22 PM
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Honestly, you guys need to create a wall of shame like we did in 2000 .. post the schedules of everyone who accepts junior manning. Display the pigs at the trough. You realize that management hasn't delivered on a promised contract?
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Originally Posted by 13n144e View Post
I really do tire of the patronizing attitude and all the "our airline sucks less than yours" squabbling. THEY BOTH SUCK. Stop worrying about who had the most scabs and concern yourself with your own "ethos" - it'll be a lot more productive.
Well said sir.

The problems that each respective airline has faced in the past are now problems faced, in full, by both groups. Trying to transfer blame from one side to the other doesn't do anything to correct our collective problems. We're either "united", or we're not. It's up to the line pilots to let their respective LEC reps know which way they want to go.
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Old 03-28-2012, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ualratt View Post
Couldn't answer your question about whether you will or won't need it for the fair but do you think it will help or hurt to already have a profile completed? Me? I err on the side of being ready and if you're seriously interested in the job, what better way to show that interest. L-CAL still uses Airline Apps which can be a pain in the A to complete.

My suggestion is to get a jump on it and don't be lazy like the others leaving everything to the last minute. Far less stressful and considerably reduces the probability of errors which can be spoilers of all good plans...
Thanks uaalrat, I just renewed my profile at Airline Apps. Need to update my times and it should be good to go!
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Old 03-30-2012, 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 13n144e View Post
Thanks for the patronizing lecture, but in nearly two decades I've never been junior-manned (voluntary or otherwise) and while they may be offering unlimited VJM, they're certainly not covering all the vacant flying.
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I admit .. 3 junior mans in 16 years .. not a way of life for me. Only time I accepted was when it meant a holiday home with the family.
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and it's VERY difficult getting along with an obsequious yes boy like you .. go back to doing your managers bidding like we expect you to do. We don't dislike you because you're CAL, we dislike you because you ***** yourself out to managements bidding. Come on Hamster boy, run a few more laps on the wheel. Take that VJM and help out the boss, all the while the boss doesn't give us a new contract. Just go on licking their boots like the subservient peon you are. I thank GOD that I'll never have to fly for you.
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Until you "CHOOSE" to do the right thing, STOP justifying your actions, and starting in being part of the solution (declining ALL VJM, JM, or otherwise)......I suggest that you don't be so quick to wrap your tongue in such a condescending fashion.
Pot & Kettle comes to mind.
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Old 03-30-2012, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by sovt View Post
Not an excuse but UAL went on strike for a month and CAL was out for years. Might skew the numbers a bit.
Southern went on strike for years but most of their scabs were replacement new hires. So what really is your point?
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Old 03-30-2012, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by avia8orguy View Post
Thanks uaalrat, I just renewed my profile at Airline Apps. Need to update my times and it should be good to go!
Best of luck. You might just be riding the incoming wave...
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