Sonny Crockett

I think you might have misread what I posted---or I didn't really spell it out correctly.

UAL wings=UAL winging under ol' JEPP in the DIA main terminal came with a box and a handshake from the system chief pilot. I think we had our picture taken as well.

CAL wings= tossed out during lunch break from lackey in the IAH training center.

No where does it say CAL pilots suck, in fact I am a CAL pilot so I would be saying "I suck" which I believe I do not.

oldmako

TMA. The cream of the crap!

James gots.

Pilotbiffster

James always gets and the dude always abides .

Sonny Crockett

"What does the "S" stand for in Supplemental? Stands for SUCKS!"

.....VP Flight Ops Billy S. newhire indoc 2003.

oldmako

Two more Billy gems,

"Come on in and sit down for the easiest airline interview you'll ever have..."

and

"Please tell me that you're not willing to surrender your United seniority number. Because if you tell me that you ARE, you're too stupid to work here"

Much of the interview was spent talking about motorcycles.

cadetdrivr

Another Billy story:

Working for TMA in '99 I called Billy (then CP) to submit my resignation after I received the UAL offer.

He asked me where I was going, presumably because Ryan had been busy poaching TMA A320 pilots that summer.

Me: I have an offer than I'm going to take

Him: Let me match it, I'll give you anything. We've lost too many pilots recently.

Me: I'm going to United

Him: (long silence) Congratulations, have fun! Ask them if you can get an earlier class date. You can go whenever you want so don't worry about giving notice---your seniority number there is more important.

6blade

Reach in your pocket and buy one more set for 7 dollars, by not doing you are intentionally trying to prove a point...

Don't say that you don't have the money, or at UAL we did not have to pay for uniforms... You are not at your old United....

Guarantee that you will all reach deeper in your pockets and give more that the $7 when your group hires the lawyers to sue everyone because of the SLI and perceived entitlements....

LAX Pilot

Normally when people hire lawyers, its the lawyers that win. Clients never win.

horrido27

Not to get into a ****ing contest here.. But that statement is probably what is wrong with out industry.

No one should have to "reach in your pocket" for something that the company requires.
Yes, it's only 7 dollars. But it's the point.

If a UAL Furlough/New Hire decides to make a point with UAL Wings, that is on them.

I expect we will have a rocky road these next 6+ years before the next contract~ That will probably be the first time we can all try and come together. Until then, all bets are off (for the most part)

Motch

oldmako

Surprise surprise, I completely disagree.

They want you to wear wings? Then they can provide them. Whats next? Am I going to have to upgrade my PC to do my free home based training? My own hotel room when at the schoolhouse? Meals on transcons?

He sure as hell isn't "at his old United" any more, Sport. Yet, he still flies their routes, planes and passengers. How about them showing us a little bit of professional dignity and respect? You have an ATP in your pocket. According to WIKIPEDIA, at the end of 2011 there were only 142,511 of us the US. By contrast, there are over 800,000 licensed physicians in the US.

Apples and oranges perhaps, but we are a fairly small group of highly educated and trained professionals. How much trouble and expense did you go through just to get the quals to APPLY for this gig let alone actually stand a chance of getting hired? And how long did they string you and your family out on this latest POS contract? How much did Jeff take home on DAY ONE of the merger?

Allow me to refresh the audiences memory.....

<<"Airline CEO Jeff Smisek started 2010 with a vow not to receive any salary until Continental Airlines turned a profit, and ended the year with a pay raise and $4.4 million in total compensation after pulling off a merger with United Airlines.

Smisek, who is CEO of the merged carrier’s parent company, United Continental Holdings Inc., received salary of $791,250 and $3.6 million in other incentives at year's end. Directors determined that Continental would have been profitable for the year and also bumped up Smisek’s base pay following the Oct. 1 merger to $975,000, according to a proxy statement filed Friday with the Securities and Exchange Commission.


But Smisek’s compensation was dwarfed, on paper, by the $16.8 million awarded to Glenn Tilton, his pre-merger counterpart at Chicago-based United Airlines.

Tilton and other senior executives reaped hefty rewards for consummating a deal that created the world’s largest carrier and contributed to an 85 percent jump in the airline’s share price. United also exceeded its targets for customer satisfaction, on-time arrivals and financial performance for the year.

In addition to his base pay of $822,999, Tilton also received $2.7 million in a discretionary bonus awarded in September, shortly before the merger closed.">>

United CEOs reaped rich rewards for 2010 merger - Chicago Breaking News

Let THEM supply the wings. They already stole our pensions and used the courts and bankruptcy laws to gut the contract. Yet according to you, we're expected to buy wings? You go right ahead, but me and many of the UAL types (and Motch) are going to push back. We are committed to our horrible culture.

The day you stop complaining is the day they take more away. I've got about 14 years of recalcitrance left and a great memory in my hip pocket.

As far as the lawsuits, don't hold your breath. The fat lady will sing and that will be that.