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Old 04-10-2013 | 06:21 AM
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There was movement in 2005-2007 at CAL, many of us 2005 hires/flowthroughs held and trained to Captain positions by '07. Age 65 changed that...

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CAL also reduced capacity and eliminated 67 mainline aircraft from its fleet by the end of 2009, retiring all of Continental's 737-300s and all but 35 of its 737-500s

So I guess we were getting 'right-sized' too

None of this speculation matters, it goes both ways...we can stand on both sides of the fence and cherry pick our agenda's all day long...in the end, the Arbitrator's decide and that's it...period..speculation and what is owed, deserved, earned, promised, contracted out agreed to...be damned

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Old 04-10-2013 | 06:26 AM
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What is Jay Pierce's hire date and is that date when he started with cal or express?
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Old 04-10-2013 | 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by syd111
What is Jay Pierce's hire date and is that date when he started with cal or express?
Hadn't thought about ol' Jay in that light. Do you think he's trying to screw both side to get a seniority leap ahead?
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Old 04-10-2013 | 07:21 AM
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There's only 3 people who's perspective on the SLI matter, and something tells me they're not going to be posting on here.
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Old 04-10-2013 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by jsled
The merger announcement date was in May 2010. Bid 12-03 was the first bid AFTER the MAD for Continental. It's results are in Skynet for all to see. It was posted in Sept, 2010. Here are the junior Captain awards in each domicile.

IAH 787 CAP 6/84
777 CAP 10/84
756 CAP 5/90
737 CAP 11/98

EWR 777 CAP 3/86
756 CAP 10/95
737 CAP 8/98

CLE 737 CAP 7/98
GUM 737 CAP 5/05

Except GUM, the junior Capt at CAL was hired in 1998. The junior Capt at UAL was hired in 1996 at the time of the merger announcement. Pretty close. Things that make you go hmmmmmm.
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I am 98 hire and ungraded to the B737 left seat in 07. BTW I was not an express pilot. Some in my class upgraded before me. I was even holding the line at EWR before reductions at EWR at the end of 08.
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Old 04-10-2013 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Staller
Hadn't thought about ol' Jay in that light. Do you think he's trying to screw both side to get a seniority leap ahead?

Damn. Cats out of the bag. I think he is also responsible for faster polar ice cap melting as well.
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Old 04-10-2013 | 07:27 AM
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Pierce is about 37 to 38% as an 89 hire. Not sure what he holds.....maybe 737 ca.
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Old 04-10-2013 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Olecal
If you have access, go look at the coair seniority list. The answer is YES if you look at the seniority list. The DOH shown is sometimes the COEX hire date, but seniority (bidding) is determined by the actual date they came to mainline, not the COEX hire date that is on that list. I could be wrong, but if you are a CAL pilot, you would know this!

Correct...
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Old 04-10-2013 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by EWR73FO
Damn. Cats out of the bag. I think he is also responsible for faster polar ice cap melting as well.

My kids use to watch a cartoon called "Pinky and the Brain". Not sure but I think it's still on TV - You'd like it and it would give you better material. Just trying to help.
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Old 04-10-2013 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Mwindaji
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I am 98 hire and ungraded to the B737 left seat in 07. BTW I was not an express pilot. Some in my class upgraded before me. I was even holding the line at EWR before reductions at EWR at the end of 08.
And I am a 97 hire who could hold 737 and 727 Captain in 2000. Then actually upgraded on the 737 in 2007. I'm just trying to get a comparison close to MAD.

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