You are a very insulting person staller. It's one thing to debate another to insult people. Show some respect act like a professional

You really are worked up over this SLI huh?

 

Now you are going to tell me how to dissect the poll data - give it a rest - SLICK. You are not that smart!

 

sUA Volunteer furloughs and sCAL that took one of the COLA's after 9-11 will not be harmed by having done so.

 

I am not going to insult you buddy. Nice try.

I am very happy with my merger committee and with what they have and will do. They are some smart guys, much faster than my slow brain.

 

Relevant to SLI - not contract in 2011 - Greed!

 

So our airline has not improved in the last couple of months? What is the time frame of this poll data? Hopefully we will not be in last place again next year. Btw Delta was in last place during their second year of their merger. Of course United's customer service has been bad for a very long time it might take longer to turn that around.

We have a long way to go especially in customer service no doubt about that, but it is getting better.

And I also agree with you, I am not that smart. If I was I would be a lawyer in Washington and not on a silly public forum.

 

The SLI process has been an ongoing and parallel process to the JCBA since the 2 merger committees first met in late summer 2010, and the data request was for their use. Nothing to do with the contract.

 

I understand that and that was my point. Pierce was trying to do an end run around the UAL MEC for data he wasn't entitled to at that time. He was trying to arrange the Contract positions "Pay Banding" and such to improve the lot of the cal guys in SLI.

Kinda like your buddy doing your wife. He knew enough about you to work your wife in his favor. This is what Pierce was doing and why the UAL MEC said "NO" it's not going to be that easy.

 

Question to Motch, and the topic he brought forward on VOL-Furloughs......

Let's say that there were VOL-Furloughs who opted to take the status, and opted out VOLUNTARILY. While he/she was out on VOL-Furlough, there happened to be subsequent round(s) of furloughs. During the subsequent furloughs, the VOL-Furlough's seniority percentage "happens" to NOW fall below the "FURLOUGH 8-BALL LINE" while out on VOL-Furlough.

In the above case (albeit rare), those who opted out on a VOL status, now have their "seniority spot" within the furlough band as a bi-product of subsequent "pink slips" that were issued after their leave. If there are cases as such, it's not rocket science as to where the VOL-Furlough's current seniority would fall on the Legacy's Master Seniority List......In the Furlough Band......Wouldn't they become INvoluntarily furloughed for a portion of their leave??

I completely understand that no one Pilot (on their respective Legacy list) can be moved down/up relative to their fellow/pre-merged Pilots......BUT when stating that "all" VOL-Furloughs are exempt, and will return to the seniority without consideration/examination as to where they line up relative to the "Furlough Band" following subsequent furlough(s) after their leave, I find that assumption a pretty broad stroke of the brush.

I'm sure this will be just another "cog" to be battled in the presences of the 3 Arbitrators in the coming weeks.

Interesting times.

 

I think your point is valid. But, non of the L-UAL vol furloughs fell below the 8ball line that I am aware of.