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Old 04-11-2013 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Olecal
Be careful of what you ask for! The Pinnacle/Mesaba/Colgan award makes a lot of reference to pay scale, and awards a bunch of slots due to pay scales at time of merger! I don't think you really want to go there, it's a slippery slope! Some of us were making over $40 per hour more than our UAL buddies... and do you want to look at widebody pay? 764 paid more than 744, hmmm!

Saw that!

L-UAL merger committee tried to block W-2 data for a reason.
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Old 04-11-2013 | 07:53 AM
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Not desperate at all! Just don't want you thinking you can pull a scab run of 83-84 or a PE steal of 84-85. You don't know your history do you? You steal you pay -

Nope, don't know the history! All these years at CAL and I know nothing and oh I lie. .

All I have ever done in my career is hoped to fly an old faded run down 747. I looked at them from my tiny regional type 737 and hoped, dreamed, prayed I could be a United pilot. I can't wait to wear the uniform maybe people will think I was hired at L-UAL and not CAL. Man that would be so cool!

Sorry man just messing with you!


On a serious note, I look forward to the arbitration award. Our airline is finally turning the corner and the operation is improving. I want to work for a place I am proud of. Hopefully things will continue to improve.

I just hope that whatever the award is, we accept it and live with it.
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Old 04-11-2013 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by routemap
Saw that!

L-UAL merger committee tried to block W-2 data for a reason.

Get you assumptions right. Pierce was trying to get SLI data unrelated to contract prior to starting negating the contract with the company. All necessary data has been exchanged post contract. The really bad thing was Pierce went to the company to get the data instead of asking the UAL MEC for it. "Back Stabber"


As "Ronnie" would say "there you go again!"
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Old 04-11-2013 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by reCALcitrant

Also my bet is that anybody off property due to furlough on either list will be stapled. Not judging the right or wrong of it, again just placing bets.

Cheers guys. Keep it light. Remember, we all have to work together about 3 feet apart. We have very little say in the matter. I hope everybody is a little ****ed at the end and can get over it quickly. I look forward to drinking a few beers with my new fellow pilots.
Not really looking to get into this ****ing contest/discussion over SLI. (Not that ANYTHING we write here will matter.. it's coming down to our respective Merger Committees and the Arbitrators~)

But, I expect (and believe it's right) that the United Pilots on a Vol Furlough will NOT be stapled and will be treated as if they never left.

Under the TPA, no pilot from either list can be advanced or displaced by accepting a position on the other sides list.. so, if a VolFur (from LUAL) is on the CAL Side, how could they lose positions from their own list?

If (hypothetically speaking) the no 1 guy at LUAL took a Voluntary Furlough, are they not still no 1 on their list?

Maybe a LUAL guy (or gal) can post how many took Vol Fur.. it would seem to me that they will (and should) be treated as being on property all along.. especially now that LUAL is (finally) recalling~

Again, just my opinion [which really doesn't mean ****]!

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Old 04-11-2013 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by routemap
Nope, don't know the history! All these years at CAL and I know nothing and oh I lie. .

All I have ever done in my career is hoped to fly an old faded run down 747. I looked at them from my tiny regional type 737 and hoped, dreamed, prayed I could be a United pilot. I can't wait to wear the uniform maybe people will think I was hired at L-UAL and not CAL. Man that would be so cool!

Sorry man just messing with you!


On a serious note, I look forward to the arbitration award. Our airline is finally turning the corner and the operation is improving. I want to work for a place I am proud of. Hopefully things will continue to improve.

I just hope that whatever the award is, we accept it and live with it.

Do you read anything not on Skynet? Rated worst in most polls and the money will likely start to dry up if Jeff and company don't do something right. All those years of being looked down on and the withdrawal into your core have hurt you. Step outside and look around. It'll do you some good.
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Old 04-11-2013 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Staller
Get you assumptions right. Pierce was trying to get SLI data unrelated to contract prior to starting negating the contract with the company. All necessary data has been exchanged post contract. The really bad thing was Pierce went to the company to get the data instead of asking the UAL MEC for it. "Back Stabber"


As "Ronnie" would say "there you go again!"
It's not an assumption. L-UAL merger committee tried unsuccessfully, Ii might add to block W-2 data request.

That sir is a fact. One you might not like but a fact.
Did I mention that was a fact?
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Old 04-11-2013 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Staller
Do you read anything not on Skynet? Rated worst in most polls and the money will likely start to dry up if Jeff and company don't do something right. All those years of being looked down on and the withdrawal into your core have hurt you. Step outside and look around. It'll do you some good.

What time period did those polls take into account?

I think I understand why people on here are calling you a brain surgeon!
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Old 04-11-2013 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Staller
Get you assumptions right. Pierce was trying to get SLI data unrelated to contract prior to starting negating the contract with the company. All necessary data has been exchanged post contract. The really bad thing was Pierce went to the company to get the data instead of asking the UAL MEC for it. "Back Stabber"


As "Ronnie" would say "there you go again!"
BS. The CAL Merger cmte made a request of the company to provide W2 wage data in 2011 (includes pay, employee imputed contributions to health benefits, B plan funding, etc.) to provide a baseline from which accurate comparisons could be extrapolated from. UA gets CAL data, and vice versa. The UA MEC balked and it went to arbitration. Arbitrator ruled last summer that the information was relevant and was to be disseminated.
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Old 04-11-2013 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by horrido27
Not really looking to get into this ****ing contest/discussion over SLI. (Not that ANYTHING we write here will matter.. it's coming down to our respective Merger Committees and the Arbitrators~)

But, I expect (and believe it's right) that the United Pilots on a Vol Furlough will NOT be stapled and will be treated as if they never left.

Under the TPA, no pilot from either list can be advanced or displaced by accepting a position on the other sides list.. so, if a VolFur (from LUAL) is on the CAL Side, how could they lose positions from their own list?



If (hypothetically speaking) the no 1 guy at LUAL took a Voluntary Furlough, are they not still no 1 on their list?

Maybe a LUAL guy (or gal) can post how many took Vol Fur.. it would seem to me that they will (and should) be treated as being on property all along.. especially now that LUAL is (finally) recalling~

Again, just my opinion [which really doesn't mean ****]!

Motch
I think you are right Motch. I think the volunteer furloughs will not get stapled. We had volunteer LOA guys also. I don't know how many that is. Somebody stayed on property because of the volunteer though. That number, whatever it is, will be towards the bottom of the list IMO. I look forward to flying with you all!
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Old 04-11-2013 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by routemap
It's not an assumption. L-UAL merger committee tried unsuccessfully, Ii might add to block W-2 data request.

That sir is a fact. One you might not like but a fact.
Did I mention that was a fact?
You have nothing to back up you ASSumptions. Pierce started trying to get an advantage on SLI from day one. This is FACT. The UAL MEC stopped the release of information at that time - talking about D-Head's. You are slower than normal for a cal guy.
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