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Old 04-10-2013 | 11:59 AM
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Here's the entire 4 hour and 4 minute C-Span transcript...

He never said CAL would 'cease to exist'...

Proposed United-Continental Merger - C-SPAN Video Library

Originally Posted by LAX Pilot
He said CAL would "cease to exist".
LAX Pilot ??? Find it yet? You most likely won't ...this is a prime example of what you want to be true for a rationalized position/agenda and what is true
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Old 04-10-2013 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by flybynuts
It was before congress when he was trying to get the merger approved. You know his lips where moving... Heck I would say some crazy stuff too to get my $$$millions.
I'm with you! Let's stample all the cal pilots to the bottom of the UAL list. It's the only thing that's going to make everybody happy.
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Old 04-10-2013 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by untied
According to Jeffie....CAL was is big trouble without the merger.
Source??? You part of the circle? Whatever!!!
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Old 04-10-2013 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Staller
The growth cal is currently going through is no more than what UAL brought to the merger. Jeff and company had better work rules with the cal guys and Pierce in their hip pocket or the flying could have gone the other way. All the 737 you are taking delivery of are for replacement not planned growth. Sorry, get the facts right.
Go back and look at what cal was - RJ outfit with RJ contract with no real respect except for CNBC because they were giving their families free tickets.
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I know you had a point to make - would you edit and repost please.
How's this..?

The growth ual is currently going through is no more than what CAL brought to the merger. Glen and company had better work rules with the ual guys and Heppner in their hip pocket...

Sorry, get the facts right.

Go back and look at what ual was - Old tired widebody domestic outfit with RJ contract with no real respect ...

Gate swings both ways buddy...
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Old 04-10-2013 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Staller
The growth cal is currently going through is no more than what UAL brought to the merger. Jeff and company had better work rules with the cal guys and Pierce in their hip pocket or the flying could have gone the other way. All the 737 you are taking delivery of are for replacement not planned growth. Sorry, get the facts right.
Go back and look at what cal was - RJ outfit with RJ contract with no real respect except for CNBC because they were giving their families free tickets.

OMG this is crap!!! Ok look at the 5 years before the merger announcement. What BS do you contribute to the growth then?
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Old 04-10-2013 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by untied
According to Jeffie....CAL was is big trouble without the merger.
Jeffie was in big trouble without it--he wouldn't have made $14m that year. What else would a guy say with that kind of cash on the line? No thanks? It's not like he was under oath; he was pushing his agenda. Wall Street, however, was speaking with the clear voice of the marketplace--18% interest loans to UAL.
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Old 04-10-2013 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 6blade
What BS do you contribute to the growth then?
In all seriousness, and not directed at your personally, but what is the CAL "growth" that keeps being mentioned????

The CAL/sCAL fleet is virtually identical in size in 2005, 2008, 2010, and 2013 (these are the only dates I bothered to look up) and is actually smaller today than in 2008.

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Old 04-10-2013 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by APC225
Jeffie was in big trouble without it--he wouldn't have made $14m that year. What else would a guy say with that kind of cash on the line? No thanks? It's not like he was under oath; he was pushing his agenda. Wall Street, however, was speaking with the clear voice of the marketplace--18% interest loans to UAL.
Tried to find in one of your older post but didn't you say that cal would have likely liquated without the money brought to the merger by UAL.
Not that it matters.
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Old 04-10-2013 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by CALFO
Sled, I have no idea why that date is printed on every page (nor do I really care). Bid 12-03 would have come out in March, 2011. That's how CAL bids have historically worked. Perhaps there is some sort of error. I have no idea.

I am certain that both Merger Committee's have the correct data and are working day and night to put forth their best arguments. The best thing for you to do right now is to find a hobby and wait until August or September. Your perspective is neither interesting nor relevant. If it makes you feel any better, however, I will listen sincerely and compassionately to your perspective when you fly as my FO after the integration.
YEah...an error. That's the ticket. Or maybe that is what CAL pilots held in the August 2010 bid....which is AFTER the merger announcement. My perspective is neither interesting or relevant to YOU. Got it. As for my hobbies, evidently one of them is ****ing you off...hahaha. Lighten up Francis. I will bet you some good German beer that if you are one of those 05-08 CAL hires, you will be junior to me for the next 20 years! Enjoy.

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Old 04-10-2013 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Staller
Tried to find in one of your older post but didn't you say that cal would have likely liquated without the money brought to the merger by UAL.
This may be what you're recalling.

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ua...ml#post1314770
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