Absent the merger, UAL would cease to exist in its old form. If you disagree, then you need to prove collusion on the part of both management sides to right size the airlines, which the arbitrator won't consider or concede to. The furloughs are coming back because of the merger, not because UAL emerged from its stubborn position of waiting for the industry to resume flying old widebodies domestically again, with Titlon hanging his thumb off the side of the road to anyone who would give him a ride to retirement.

Integrated, stapled...it'll all work out...in the end the main deal is everyone will get placed on the list and then we can get this behind us. For the most part, given attrition, retirements, growth, widebody fleet replacement...anyone on property will probably wiggle 2-3% either way from where they are relatively on their respective current list, save for maybe a few at the top and then we can move along. The key with putting these together is that everyone is treated fairly...you may not like everything, but the key again is fairness. Historical record and trend data usually sets the definition of fairness.

 

According to Jeffie....CAL was is big trouble without the merger.

 

The growth cal is currently going through is no more than what UAL brought to the merger. Jeff and company had better work rules with the cal guys and Pierce in their hip pocket or the flying could have gone the other way. All the 737 you are taking delivery of are for replacement not planned growth. Sorry, get the facts right.
Go back and look at what cal was - RJ outfit with RJ contract with no real respect except for CNBC because they were giving their families free tickets.

 

When Jeff was brought in to make the deal go down...that was probably true, given the industry's re-regulation of itself. He was referring to the mega-carrier size of the new Delta, potential American etc.. If we didn't pair up with a compatible partner given all the mergers prior, we would have been the weakling (size wise-not business model) when the dust settled.

 

Okay, I started reading your post and then you lowered into some childish name calling and ridiculousness.

By the way, you need to replace old airplanes before you can grow new ones...something old United wasn't too familiar with. Were you going to bring all that 'growth' to US Airways also in 2005-2007? It would have sure fit their paint scheme...3-4 different generations of liveries with a generous portion slated for the desert or third world service

 

How about this...

Take said senority list, CAL or UAL either works for experiment, invert then staple to other senority list.

 

He said CAL would "cease to exist".

 

Please post a link so I can read it in the context it was said

 

I know you had a point to make - would you edit and repost please.

 

It was before congress when he was trying to get the merger approved. You know his lips where moving... Heck I would say some crazy stuff too to get my $$$millions.