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Old 05-18-2013 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxepr1
Taking a broad brush stroke there LAX.... Where is your data to back that up? Sounds like that statement comes from a little prejudice on your part....Sacrifice? Come on where did you get that? Pushed around? Next to Wolfe Blitzer your my next favorite comedian... Keep making things up, its kind of funny....Thanks
Did you see the CAL proposed seniority list?

I think that speaks volumes.
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Old 05-19-2013 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by APC225
Absolutely right. The merger has become an acquisition. UAL+CAL got their cash infusion with the idea that the "JD Power" management would be in charge. They were wrong of course. JS doesn't know how to run an airline either. But with LUAL taking over UAL now will we all go right back to 2006? If we wait for 5 years to declare BK and then don't liquidate for another 3 years, I will be able to retire before the lights are turned out.
Good to see you're still optimistic.
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Old 05-19-2013 | 07:33 AM
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Dear Arm chair mediators et al.,

Wake me up in September when all this crap is finished.

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Old 05-19-2013 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaded N Cynical
Dear Arm chair mediators et al.,

Wake me up in September when all this crap is finished.

Jaded

Pretty much sums it up. All of these Perry Mason wannabe's are entertaining though.
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Old 05-19-2013 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by LAX Pilot
Did you see the CAL proposed seniority list?

I think that speaks volumes.
Yes I did, both sides.... Whats the matter have a problem? Posturing by both sides in my opinion.... Did a group group stand up to you? Get used to it buddy, looks like your beliefs go untrue. Looks like you thought we were going to roll over. Didn't happen did it? And your mad, too bad so sad .. I see two aggressive list proposals in which the arbitrators will decide.... Is it fair to say all UAL pilots are like you? I sure hope not....
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Old 05-19-2013 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxepr1
Yes I did, both sides.... Whats the matter have a problem? Posturing by both sides in my opinion.... Did a group group stand up to you? Get used to it buddy, looks like your beliefs go untrue. Looks like you thought we were going to roll over. Didn't happen did it? And your mad, too bad so sad .. I see two aggressive list proposals in which the arbitrators will decide.... Is it fair to say all UAL pilots are like you? I sure hope not....
Well actually one proposal makes an attempt at fairness and use of established merger policy. The other STAPLES nearly 40% of the other groups pilots.

One is realistic and will most likely be much closer to the actual final list the other is a pure and simple middle finger in the face of the whole process and the other pilot group. I'll let you use your powers of observation to establish which is which.
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Old 05-19-2013 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxepr1
Yes I did, both sides.... Whats the matter have a problem? Posturing by both sides in my opinion.... Did a group group stand up to you? Get used to it buddy, looks like your beliefs go untrue. Looks like you thought we were going to roll over. Didn't happen did it? And your mad, too bad so sad .. I see two aggressive list proposals in which the arbitrators will decide.... Is it fair to say all UAL pilots are like you? I sure hope not....
Dude, stop drinking and posting. Or, chill ** out..........That is all.

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Old 05-19-2013 | 05:56 PM
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"One side makes an attempt at fairness?" I just fell off my chair. Funniest thing I read all day thanks!!
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Old 05-19-2013 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxepr1
Yes I did, both sides.... Whats the matter have a problem? Posturing by both sides in my opinion.... Did a group group stand up to you? Get used to it buddy, looks like your beliefs go untrue. Looks like you thought we were going to roll over. Didn't happen did it? And your mad, too bad so sad .. I see two aggressive list proposals in which the arbitrators will decide.... Is it fair to say all UAL pilots are like you? I sure hope not....
The CAL list is a joke. The UAL list is relative seniority +- 5%.

Look at the bright side, if we get anything that looks like the CAL list we get to have a new union.
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Old 05-19-2013 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by LAX Pilot
The CAL list is a joke. The UAL list is relative seniority +- 5%.

Look at the bright side, if we get anything that looks like the CAL list we get to have a new union.
LAX,
There is thousands of numbers difference between the two list for me and where I would wind up. 5% is not the standard among the entire list presented by UAL and you should not present it like it is that way. I could reference the joke too but each side should ask for the moon and then see what the arbitrators decide. I think it will be more down to earth than the moon btw.
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