Today's LUAL SLI Presentation?
05-20-2013 | 08:07 AM
#171
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Not taking a side but here is a question for both CAL and UAL
Pilots::
What should happen if you buy Virgin America?
Assume I am number 35 seniority out of 500 and 6 percent.
Should I be the same percentage on the combine seniority?
Obviously not . Soooo what gives here.
Let the Arbitrators decide, stop spending union dues money both MECs and get all together and start laying ground for 2017 NOW
Pilots::
What should happen if you buy Virgin America?
Assume I am number 35 seniority out of 500 and 6 percent.
Should I be the same percentage on the combine seniority?
Obviously not . Soooo what gives here.
Let the Arbitrators decide, stop spending union dues money both MECs and get all together and start laying ground for 2017 NOW
Would it be a merger of two ALPA carriers?
Apples and oranges.
05-20-2013 | 09:32 AM
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Then what? I am only trying to see the rationale here..
And again let the Feds decide and look forward because Delta passed UAL and AMR will soon
05-20-2013 | 09:40 AM
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Oh, so you would turn alpa just like cal did to try to get a seniority grab during a merger? Nice, hey why not?
05-20-2013 | 10:11 AM
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If you look at Jeff's United you see a brown shoe in a room full of tuxedoes. No comparison to either American or Delta. We are being outclassed by their management and there is nothing the pilots of UAL or cal can do collectively to change that.
05-20-2013 | 11:35 AM
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05-20-2013 | 11:49 AM
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Sure otto if you say so, but sorry I don't agree with anything you say, we didn't want you and I can't beleive it went down the way it did and yes I expect the ual guys to take it in the shorts. PLenty of rumors before you guys came back but hey keep telling yourself what you want and maybe you will feel better but I doubt it.
05-21-2013 | 04:45 AM
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Sure otto if you say so, but sorry I don't agree with anything you say, we didn't want you and I can't beleive it went down the way it did and yes I expect the ual guys to take it in the shorts. PLenty of rumors before you guys came back but hey keep telling yourself what you want and maybe you will feel better but I doubt it.
05-21-2013 | 05:18 AM
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Not just this merger but the way the industry was headed if you paid attention at all, was not thinking smarter was thining more opportunistic. By the way 2001 would be a great place to start bringing you into the list.
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05-21-2013 | 05:33 AM
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OK, so what is your relative seniority without 1437 furloughs, that are not on property, taken out of the equation? If that's the case, CAL pilots should get relative seniority based on firm a/c orders before the the merger! Adding those pilots, would move them way up the list. Keep it real, and it won't hurt as much. I'm prepared for it to hurt, are you?
05-21-2013 | 07:23 AM
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OK, so what is your relative seniority without 1437 furloughs, that are not on property, taken out of the equation? If that's the case, CAL pilots should get relative seniority based on firm a/c orders before the the merger! Adding those pilots, would move them way up the list. Keep it real, and it won't hurt as much. I'm prepared for it to hurt, are you?
You are ASSuming that the furlougees will get stapled even though they have LONGEVITY. We will wait and see on that one. BTW, even IF your logic were sound, Mr. Hoss would be 86% with all furloughees absent from the equation, not 98%. But I can't find 'relative seniority' anywhere in the Merger Policy.Just "keeping it real"
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