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Old 05-22-2013 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Staller
You sure it's not just the DEPENDS being full causing that?
Dude....grow up. People read your posts and label all of us as idiots.

If you can't say something somewhat constructive why don't you take a break from the board?

In fact, why can't ALL of us be a little nicer to each other? NONE of us have ANY say in the outcome...why be "dicks"?
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Old 05-22-2013 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by UalHvy
Dude....grow up. People read your posts and label all of us as idiots.

If you can't say something somewhat constructive why don't you take a break from the board?

In fact, why can't ALL of us be a little nicer to each other? NONE of us have ANY say in the outcome...why be "dicks"?
Holy crap!!!! FINALLY!!!!!

We have our problem children for sure but I must give all you LUAL guys credit for ignoring him for sooooo long!!! Thanks to you and Airhoss for being LUAL pilot leaders.

I have hope for our two groups after all!!

I have great buddies at LUAL and I hope to gain even more.
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Old 05-22-2013 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by El Gwopo
Holy crap!!!! FINALLY!!!!!

We have our problem children for sure but I must give all you LUAL guys credit for ignoring him for sooooo long!!! Thanks to you and Airhoss for being LUAL pilot leaders.

I have hope for our two groups after all!!

I have great buddies at LUAL and I hope to gain even more.
Staller,

You have demeaned our group, and our profession.



So, El

Where's your condemnation of the CAL individuals who made racist remarks, remarks surrounding crashes, and blatant lies (i.e. Thor, V, and E).

Do we have to vocally punish our poorly behaved UAL APC psters whilst you CAL posters are silent on yours?

As I recall Thor was even warned by the mods . . . can you quote an earlier condemnation of yours regarding that post? How about the CAL pilot post regarding crashes, did you condemn that post? And, what about the CAL post that said all 2005 pilots were captains? It's a 2-way street, but you are making it sound very one sided. That is my point.
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Old 05-22-2013 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by nerd2009
See "Delta Pilots Association.org", it's just a matter of when......

just a note, somebody must be worried about the DPA, because there are other web sites created to play down the DPA
A lot of that movement is because of the TWA lawsuit and potential liability of ALPA national. If the judge awards a billion dollar settlement, ALPA national doesn't have the dollars to pay, so guess who gets a special "assessment" to their monthly pay check .. yeppa, all ALPA members. At least that's the theory. If DAL and UAL depart the pattern, ALPA National is nothing but a regional airline rep.
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Old 05-22-2013 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Sunvox
Staller,

You have demeaned our group, and our profession.



So, El

Where's your condemnation of the CAL individuals who made racist remarks, remarks surrounding crashes, and blatant lies (i.e. Thor, V, and E).

Do we have to vocally punish our poorly behaved UAL APC psters whilst you CAL posters are silent on yours?

As I recall Thor was even warned by the mods . . . can you quote an earlier condemnation of yours regarding that post? How about the CAL pilot post regarding crashes, did you condemn that post? And, what about the CAL post that said all 2005 pilots were captains? It's a 2-way street, but you are making it sound very one sided. That is my point.
I, in no way, say our side does not have our problem children. That's why I said, "we have our problem children".
I am not GLUED to this board like some are, and I post even less often. If I see disrespect from LCAL pilots I am certainly not afraid to say anything. This person stands out to me probably because of the level of hatred he spews and he posts VERY often.
I am simply happy to see LUAL pilots call this person out. I know not all of you guys are filled with his anger.
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Old 05-23-2013 | 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Sunvox
Staller,

You have demeaned our group, and our profession.



So, El

Where's your condemnation of the CAL individuals who made racist remarks, remarks surrounding crashes, and blatant lies (i.e. Thor, V, and E).

Do we have to vocally punish our poorly behaved UAL APC psters whilst you CAL posters are silent on yours?

As I recall Thor was even warned by the mods . . . can you quote an earlier condemnation of yours regarding that post? How about the CAL pilot post regarding crashes, did you condemn that post? And, what about the CAL post that said all 2005 pilots were captains? It's a 2-way street, but you are making it sound very one sided. That is my point.

Hey Sunvox, How do you feel about your Council 18(ORD) remarks about the subservient employees at CAL? The LEC president(18) must be a tool, I can't wait to meet him.... You never once had any CAL council say anything bad on print about the UAL guys( really classy in my opinion)...Yes your council guys... It's ok to hammer the Cal guys, but the minute one fires back at a UAL guy all hell breaks lose.. We can go back and forth with this all you want...It's a waste of time.... Say what you want, just be ready when someone disagrees with you. It's not one sided.......... Max EWR
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Old 05-23-2013 | 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Maxepr1
Hey Sunvox, How do you feel about your Council 18(ORD) remarks about the subservient employees at CAL? The LEC president(18) must be a tool, I can't wait to meet him.... You never once had any CAL council say anything bad on print about the UAL guys( really classy in my opinion)...Yes your council guys... It's ok to hammer the Cal guys, but the minute one fires back at a UAL guy all hell breaks lose.. We can go back and forth with this all you want...It's a waste of time.... Say what you want, just be ready when someone disagrees with you. It's not one sided.......... Max EWR
There is no Council 18 in Chicago. That's ORDC12. is this something that was said at a meeting or a C12 blast mail? It looks like all the Councils like to cheer for their members, look no further than Ben's blast mail to the guys in Houston. When called on it on another forum, Ben explained it away as saying that it was only intended to rouse up his guys in Houston. So what ever it is said at council meetings it is just that, nothing more. I agree that it does not do much in the way of unity building.
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Old 05-23-2013 | 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by LeeMat
There is no Council 18 in Chicago. That's ORDC12. is this something that was said at a meeting or a C12 blast mail? It looks like all the Councils like to cheer for their members, look no further than Ben's blast mail to the guys in Houston. When called on it on another forum, Ben explained it away as saying that it was only intended to rouse up his guys in Houston. So what ever it is said at council meetings it is just that, nothing more. I agree that it does not do much in the way of unity building.
Ok, Council 12, my bad, in print, blast mail... I honestly feel there will be no Unity here... The prejudice on both sides is too deeply engrained in both our cultures... Mixing it is like oil and vinegar... We all have different views... I'll look for Ben's blastmail.... Was it in response to ORDC12 shot over the bow? Well anyway if you fire a shot across the bow,expect three in the hull.... At least for now.... I wonder if all the councils both sides have a plan to get the groups together... The SLI is only to put numbers together, what will bring the people together in our careers? Anyone have any ideas?
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Old 05-23-2013 | 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Maxepr1
Ok, Council 12, my bad, in print, blast mail... I honestly feel there will be no Unity here... The prejudice on both sides is too deeply engrained in both our cultures... Mixing it is like oil and vinegar... We all have different views... I'll look for Ben's blastmail.... Was it in response to ORDC12 shot over the bow? Well anyway if you fire a shot across the bow,expect three in the hull.... At least for now.... I wonder if all the councils both sides have a plan to get the groups together... The SLI is only to put numbers together, what will bring the people together in our careers? Anyone have any ideas?
You talk about unity? Did you see the CAL proposed staple job of 2,500 UAL pilots? We just don't react we'll to scab-like behavior.
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Old 05-23-2013 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by El Gwopo
I, in no way, say our side does not have our problem children. That's why I said, "we have our problem children".
I am not GLUED to this board like some are, and I post even less often. If I see disrespect from LCAL pilots I am certainly not afraid to say anything. This person stands out to me probably because of the level of hatred he spews and he posts VERY often.
I am simply happy to see LUAL pilots call this person out. I know not all of you guys are filled with his anger.
Funny, but SUNVOX USED to be level headed, and then he took the wrong road. Now HIS posts are starting to show venom. Ahhhh, what these boards will do to people. He actually took for gospel my comment that ALL 2005 hires were captains at CAL.......LOL. Shoot, we have B777 FO's that could be B777 CA's but never upgraded. Imagine that! (And Sunvox, they were hired WAY before 2005!)
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