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Old 05-21-2013, 08:12 PM
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Ha, ALPA wanted us badly, they courted us non stop because we were a profitable, growing airline, thousands of us had come from other ALPA carriers prior to CAL and wanted to be back in ALPA to reap the benefits of being part of an national union vs a small in house union. ALPA has more strength in numbers, maybe your narrow mind can't wrap around that fact but here we are, a lot of us have 10, 15 plus years in good standing with ALPA. Another shocker United is now a combo of UAL and CAL, management, pilots, FAs etc. live with it, make it a great company, your livelihood depends on it.
ALPA wanted dues money. They even let SCABS back in to get it. It had nothing with you being "a profitable, growing airline."

Don't kid yourself.
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Old 05-22-2013, 01:32 AM
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Isn't it time to give up? Pierce does what he does in support of who he represents, the CAL pilots. Hepner does what he does in support of his UAL group. It's just business, and one side had some perceived leverage, and supposedly used it! Walking around and carrying this ill and hatred takes so much energy, and makes a miserable QOL!!!
Tell the late 70's/early 80's CAL/EAL guys "it's just business" or tell the furloughed UAL pilots "it's just business". How about pierce delaying JCBA for almost a year while we all lost money - guess "it's just business".
It leads me to think I shouldn't care about your QOL because "it's just business".
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Old 05-22-2013, 02:51 AM
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ALPA wanted 2 things from the cal pilots, dues money and keep cal from acting like an RJ outfit. Otherwise they would have let cal die in the slow death spiral it was in. Make no mistake in thinking cal is/was the prize - it was a tool used by the bankers to extract more money out of UAL. What you need to live with is the cal way is dying and will be replaced with the UAL way.


See "Delta Pilots Association.org", it's just a matter of when......

just a note, somebody must be worried about the DPA, because there are other web sites created to play down the DPA

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Old 05-22-2013, 04:22 AM
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Tell the late 70's/early 80's CAL/EAL guys "it's just business" or tell the furloughed UAL pilots "it's just business". How about pierce delaying JCBA for almost a year while we all lost money - guess "it's just business".
It leads me to think I shouldn't care about your QOL because "it's just business".
Someone with your anger and disdain will never enjoy the QOL that I enjoy on a daily basis. See you in September!
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See "Delta Pilots Association.org", it's just a matter of when......
Meh.

DPA has been "this close" for years now with no substantial progress since. It's like the roller coaster that stalls short of the top.
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DPA? doa. Previously signed cards are out-of-date. Wasted money and effort.
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Old 05-22-2013, 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Moombabeach View Post
Ha, ALPA wanted us badly, they courted us non stop because we were a profitable, growing airline, thousands of us had come from other ALPA carriers prior to CAL and wanted to be back in ALPA to reap the benefits of being part of an national union vs a small in house union. ALPA has more strength in numbers, maybe your narrow mind can't wrap around that fact but here we are, a lot of us have 10, 15 plus years in good standing with ALPA. Another shocker United is now a combo of UAL and CAL, management, pilots, FAs etc. live with it, make it a great company, your livelihood depends on it.
Wrong again, your livelihood might depend on it mine however does not.
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Old 05-22-2013, 06:18 AM
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Someone with your anger and disdain will never enjoy the QOL that I enjoy on a daily basis. See you in September!
If you want to call what you have QOL then have at it - on the last day there will be a special place for your kind. You've got yours so let everbody else fend for themselves. News for you - there will be more "United Pilot" there helping each other. Have fun on that island with your QOL.
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Old 05-22-2013, 07:41 AM
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If you want to call what you have QOL then have at it - on the last day there will be a special place for your kind. You've got yours so let everbody else fend for themselves. News for you - there will be more "United Pilot" there helping each other. Have fun on that island with your QOL.
I have never lived my life with that mantra, I live right my friend! I will enjoy that island, as much as I enjoy flying with UAL peeps here at CAL. I am truly thankful that they don't carry your anger! If we ever fly together, I will treat you withe same respect, but if you pull this crap on the flight deck, I will show you the door! Back to 'blocked' island you go. See you in September...
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I have never lived my life with that mantra, I live right my friend! I will enjoy that island, as much as I enjoy flying with UAL peeps here at CAL. I am truly thankful that they don't carry your anger! If we ever fly together, I will treat you withe same respect, but if you pull this crap on the flight deck, I will show you the door! Back to 'blocked' island you go. See you in September...
You still want to play Nurse Ratchet - sorry, those days are OVER!
Those people (not peeps) you speak of tolerate you and probably have the same feelings i do. The only cockpit we'll ever meet in will belong to me - so you can save your "I'm senior" talk for the new hires.
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