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Old 05-03-2014, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Hilltopper89 View Post
I think he's implying that anyone vacancy bidding into EWR on the 73 will see a pretty significant bump up in regards to base seniority. For instance, an FO who is 75% at IAH or 90% at DEN might be 40% at EWR.
No what he is talking about is the ability to "bump" into any seat at any base that your seniority can hold if you are not trained by a certain date. Many airbus and 76T FO's could bump to guppy capt or widebody FO.
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Old 05-03-2014, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ron kent View Post
No what he is talking about is the ability to "bump" into any seat at any base that your seniority can hold if you are not trained by a certain date. Many airbus and 76T FO's could bump to guppy capt or widebody FO.
Yup. THIS is was is meant by a "bump".

(Same contract methodology that occurs when a pilot is "bumped" out of a seat due to a surplus.)
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Old 05-03-2014, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ron kent View Post
No what he is talking about is the ability to "bump" into any seat at any base that your seniority can hold if you are not trained by a certain date. Many airbus and 76T FO's could bump to guppy capt or widebody FO.
What is that date for this current vacancy bid?

Or maybe it's a certain amt or weeks or months per the contract after the bid is published?
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Old 05-03-2014, 11:23 AM
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Can the guys in the May 6 class report back what aircraft are on the table (after you start class) since this recent vacancy posting?

Things change rapidly around here …
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Old 05-03-2014, 11:42 AM
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Things change rapidly around here …
Hint: not necessarily.

This "vacancy" is essentially a re-bid for the earlier vacancy that "timed out." Per the pilot contract, UCH needs unfilled vacancies to assign to new-hires.

The constraint remains training capacity, not the requirement for additional bodies---which were needed yesterday. New-hires can expect essentially the same mix of fleets and bases as previously advertised.

If you don't want the A320/76T/737 in EWR don't accept a class date.
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Old 05-03-2014, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr View Post
Hint: not necessarily.

This "vacancy" is essentially a re-bid for the earlier vacancy that "timed out." Per the pilot contract, UCH needs unfilled vacancies to assign to new-hires.

The constraint remains training capacity, not the requirement for additional bodies---which were needed yesterday. New-hires can expect essentially the same mix of fleets and bases as previously advertised. If you don't want the A320/76T/737 in EWR don't accept a class date.
.....I want ANY metal tied to a UAL paycheck.

Curious though....why the sudden 737 openings in training for New Hires after we were told NO 737s till Fall due to upgrades?
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Originally Posted by MPAdriver View Post
.....I want ANY metal tied to a UAL paycheck.

Curious though....why the sudden 737 openings in training for New Hires after we were told NO 737s till Fall due to upgrades?
By the time they award the bids, then hire new pilots, then wait for them to finish their indoc, the training will be in the fall.

I predict new hire classes from September to March will be very robust. Remember that in September 2015 the 3.5 to 1 trip rig kicks in and this is going to spur some more hiring to cover the shortfall because they will not be able to schedule us the way they do now.
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Old 05-03-2014, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MPAdriver View Post
.....I want ANY metal tied to a UAL paycheck.

Curious though....why the sudden 737 openings in training for New Hires after we were told NO 737s till Fall due to upgrades?
Definitely not short on 737 FOs in EWR right now. 09/13 hire and to date I have 100.9 hours in the aircraft. I'm enjoying the down time at home!!
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Old 05-03-2014, 02:34 PM
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Definitely not short on 737 FOs in EWR right now. 09/13 hire and to date I have 100.9 hours in the aircraft. I'm enjoying the down time at home!!
That's a loonnng time to be checkin' out chicks on channel 9!
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Originally Posted by pilot64golfer View Post
By the time they award the bids, then hire new pilots, then wait for them to finish their indoc, the training will be in the fall.

I predict new hire classes from September to March will be very robust. Remember that in September 2015 the 3.5 to 1 trip rig kicks in and this is going to spur some more hiring to cover the shortfall because they will not be able to schedule us the way they do now.
Duty rig 3.5:1 starts Sept 2014
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