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Old 07-31-2013 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by untied
We will most likely be in bankruptcy within 5 years taking pay cuts and giving up more scope due to all these new, shiny airplanes.
Only if you vote yes.

Voting NO is an option - I wish more UAL guys thought of it.

The pressure to come back with a better deal was higher than ever on the company, and 67% couldn't see it through the short term $ signs.

Sad, just sad.
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Old 07-31-2013 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ERJ Jay
Only if you vote yes.

Voting NO is an option - I wish more UAL guys thought of it.

The pressure to come back with a better deal was higher than ever on the company, and 67% couldn't see it through the short term $ signs.

Sad, just sad.
This might just be the most illogical disjointed post of the year, so far.

Voting no somehow would have kept Jeffy and crew from buying 737 900's to replace 757 200's? maybe voting no would have increased the severely limited performance capabilities of the 737-9? Possibly voting no would have kept costs down as we trudged on without a contract and the minimal LCAL contract soldiered on and replaced all of the LUAL guys? What the HE!! are you getting at here? There are so many divergences from reality it would take weeks just try and break it down..
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Old 07-31-2013 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ERJ Jay
Only if you vote yes.

Voting NO is an option - I wish more UAL guys thought of it.

The pressure to come back with a better deal was higher than ever on the company, and 67% couldn't see it through the short term $ signs.

Sad, just sad.
You want to blame the UAL side for the contract because of money. Way off point and lack of understanding of what was going on. The CAL side thought by putting the contract out for vote, as written, would fail. This would have given the CAL side time for a bigger grab of Captain seats that belong to UAL pilots. The "YES" vote started time clock for of SLI start and stopped the seat grab and other things from impacting the UAL side. The contract is a POS but as a betting man, I'd bet that half of the "YES" voters were CAL pilots tired of the dealings of their MEC.
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Old 07-31-2013 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Carolsdanger
You want to blame the UAL side for the contract because of money. Way off point and lack of understanding of what was going on. The CAL side thought by putting the contract out for vote, as written, would fail. This would have given the CAL side time for a bigger grab of Captain seats that belong to UAL pilots. The "YES" vote started time clock for of SLI start and stopped the seat grab and other things from impacting the UAL side. The contract is a POS but as a betting man, I'd bet that half of the "YES" voters were CAL pilots tired of the dealings of their MEC.
If those seats belonged to UAL pilots, then UAL pilots would be in them, period! Intentional or not, your side bet that everything would go as you wanted, but it did not ... without a backstop, you choose to support the POS UPA; own up and quit blaming the CAL guys for all that was/is wrong in your world.
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Old 07-31-2013 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Carolsdanger
You want to blame the UAL side for the contract because of money. Way off point and lack of understanding of what was going on. The CAL side thought by putting the contract out for vote, as written, would fail. This would have given the CAL side time for a bigger grab of Captain seats that belong to UAL pilots. The "YES" vote started time clock for of SLI start and stopped the seat grab and other things from impacting the UAL side. The contract is a POS but as a betting man, I'd bet that half of the "YES" voters were CAL pilots tired of the dealings of their MEC.
Co-workers, please stop the conspiracy theories and unite as one. This will all be over with soon. We must unite as ALPA brothers and sisters.
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Old 07-31-2013 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by SEDPA
If those seats belonged to UAL pilots, then UAL pilots would be in them, period! Intentional or not, your side bet that everything would go as you wanted, but it did not ... without a backstop, you choose to support the POS UPA; own up and quit blaming the CAL guys for all that was/is wrong in your world.
Dude...you're an '08 hired furloughed 147. You can keep talking the talk, but in about a month, get ready to GET IN LINE. The ol' career expectations will be taking a hit.

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Old 07-31-2013 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by SEDPA
If those seats belonged to UAL pilots, then UAL pilots would be in them, period! Intentional or not, your side bet that everything would go as you wanted, but it did not ... without a backstop, you choose to support the POS UPA; own up and quit blaming the CAL guys for all that was/is wrong in your world.
Not blaming anybody, just putting out the facts. If I were to blame the CAL pilots for anything it would be for not staying informed of the dealings at their LEC and MEC levels.
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Old 07-31-2013 | 08:53 AM
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FYI, I have never blamed the CO guys. I blame Jeff and Co. for playing one side against the other very effectively with a compliant CO MEC.

You all are talking as if the merger and aircraft orders happened in a vacuum. You think the deal was dead the first time they talked merger? Star Alliance has been talking about aircraft ordering in volume for discounts and pricing for years, and then CO joins STAR?

It is so obvious I can't believe anyone can seriously think that both companies weren't cooperating their fleet orders almost from the moment they talked merger the first time. Glenn smelled a pay day and just about prostituted himself for the deal. Including parking our 737 fleet. That's why CO 737 flying has grown so much in the last 3 years.

The question will be how much weight will the arbitrators give this for the SLI.
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Old 07-31-2013 | 09:01 AM
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Please fellow co-workers, you are only stressing yourselves out with these outlandish conspiracy theories. Everything happens for a reason. We are all in this together. We must come together as co-workers and stop the blame game. Start trusting instead of blaming.


Proverbs 31:6-7 ESV /


Give strong drink to the one who is perishing, and wine to those in bitter distress; let them drink and forget their poverty and remember their misery no more.
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Old 07-31-2013 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by jsled
Dude...you're an '08 hired furloughed 147. You can keep talking the talk, but in about a month, get ready to GET IN LINE. The ol' career expectations will be taking a hit.

Sled
Not quite right, but I am a CAL B3er ... imagine that, more "shut up and color" ... please add me to your ignore list.
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