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Old 08-23-2013 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by gettinbumped
The only fast track way I know of is to have a letter of recommendation of a Chief Pilot Level type.
Old CAL way to get this was for a CAL pilot to walk in a resume and talk the candidate up. I can't remember if it was in a Chief Pilot update or from somewhere else, but I heard that the new way is to take the candidate in personally for a meet and greet.
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Old 08-24-2013 | 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by SkyJunky
Those who have applied recently, how long was it till you heard anything back from united?

I applied last week, and I'm getting anxious! No call yet.
Am I the only one who finds this amusing? A whole week and you haven't heard anything? I can see why you are anxious! <sarcasm>

#instantgratification
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Old 08-24-2013 | 05:28 AM
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One more call for one of my recs. He's doing the psych test this week. Total of 3 now. One not hired, one hired, and one soon to be hired hopefully. I don't have any special pull or know anybody special. Well, I know some special people, but they don't have any hiring pull. All of the guys are military. None of them are particularly high time. Good luck guys.
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Old 08-24-2013 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by reCALcitrant
One more call for one of my recs. He's doing the psych test this week. Total of 3 now. One not hired, one hired, and one soon to be hired hopefully. I don't have any special pull or know anybody special. Well, I know some special people, but they don't have any hiring pull. All of the guys are military. None of them are particularly high time. Good luck guys.
Congrats to your recs!

Can you share their general hours/quals? Are you a captain or FO? Looking for more ideas on how to draw attention to my app. As a 12 year AD AF pilot, guardsman, and brand new regional FO, I'm out of ideas. I know of several people who've been called recently. All had very senior recs.

Thanks for any insight!

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Old 08-24-2013 | 07:26 AM
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<<I know one UAL 74 capt who said he'd help out in anyway he could.
Any suggestions would be awesome, guys.>>

Tell him to retire.
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Old 08-24-2013 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by missintheline
Tell him to retire.
I will once he gives me a rec ;-)
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Old 08-24-2013 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by SkyJunky
Well that's all very helpful. I appreciate the non-sugar coated replies. I don't have thousands of RJ capt time, but the majority of my time is TPIC and a little over 1000 Jet PIC. All corp flying. Some folks I've spoken to who got class dates earlier this summer were full of internal recs with slightly more time.

I know one UAL 74 capt who said he'd help out in anyway he could. I've asked him to help get me in touch with other UAL guys to build a network.

Any suggestions would be awesome, guys.
All Corp flying kinda makes you a little uncompetitive against Military and high time RJ/Turboprop 121 folks. Airlines like a very structured flying background---not saying that Corp flying is not "structured" but ranking against the other two puts you at the bottom.


Not saying it will never happen.....just being realistic.

I did (10) LOR's and 9 have been hired, all have 5000TT+ 1000TT PIC at least, and all were Check Airman. The one guy I am still trying to help lacks a College Degree....that may not be a factor in a few years but currently it appears to be a must. All have 121 backgrounds (few of them were ex-Military as well)

Most of them had more than 2 type ratings on large 121 aircraft.

If you could get some 121 time that would be a huge plus.

FWIW....
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Old 08-24-2013 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by sonnycrockett

All Corp flying kinda makes you a little uncompetitive against Military and high time RJ/Turboprop 121 folks. Airlines like a very structured flying background---not saying that Corp flying is not "structured" but ranking against the other two puts you at the bottom.


Not saying it will never happen.....just being realistic.

I did (10) LOR's and 9 have been hired, all have 5000TT+ 1000TT PIC at least, and all were Check Airman. The one guy I am still trying to help lacks a College Degree....that may not be a factor in a few years but currently it appears to be a must. All have 121 backgrounds (few of them were ex-Military as well)

Most of them had more than 2 type ratings on large 121 aircraft.

If you could get some 121 time that would be a huge plus.

FWIW....
I've heard it both ways regarding corporate time, but your response has been my assumption with regards to how airlines view pilot time; corp time being less valuable.

Quality time: Wish I could have passed the MEPS physical way back when and Mil time may have been an option for me. No waivers were granted for me on a previous injury.

Thanks for giving me some perspective on who's getting hired. Again, I'm trying to manage expectations. From what I gather so far, it may not be out of the question for me if I receive internal recs, but the outlook is somewhat dim.
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Old 08-24-2013 | 10:47 AM
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There is still a good ratio for Corporate guys too.
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Old 08-24-2013 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by flybynuts
There is still a good ratio for Corporate guys too.
Yeah 130drvr mentioned that there he has seen several corp guys in class. Keeping my hopes up, attempting to network, and keeping airline apps up to date.
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