Pre-post ISL percentages
09-04-2013, 03:40 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by reCALcitrant
Does anybody have the 2010 CAL merger date list? I can't seem to find a copy. CCS is of no help as it seems to be down. PM me if you have one. Thanks!
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09-04-2013, 05:35 PM
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2005 Hire. Based on the July 2011 list, I subtracted the 147 furloughs. That put me at about 78%. Now sitting 76%. No complaints. Well the standard pilot complaints. But none about the result. I look forward to flying with all you guys. BTW. I ran the numbers for 5 people at CAL that I know. One at about 50%, a couple of 2005 hires and a buddy who was a few from getting furloughed in 2010. EVERYBODY is now sitting withing 1% of their 2010 percentage. 2 exclusions. Me (gained 2%) and the guy a couple numbers from furlough. He gained 8%.
09-04-2013, 05:41 PM
#26
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Originally Posted by reCALcitrant
2005 Hire. Based on the July 2011 list, I subtracted the 147 furloughs. That put me at about 78%. Now sitting 76%. No complaints. Well the standard pilot complaints. But none about the result. I look forward to flying with all you guys. BTW. I ran the numbers for 5 people at CAL that I know. One at about 50%, a couple of 2005 hires and a buddy who was a few from getting furloughed in 2010. EVERYBODY is now sitting withing 1% of their 2010 percentage. 2 exclusions. Me (gained 2%) and the guy a couple numbers from furlough. He gained 8%.
09-05-2013, 07:30 AM
#28
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CAL 01 hire
I may be screwing this up, but:
Hired spring 2001
Current position on CAL list as of August 2013 = 56%
Position on 2010 CAL snapshot using total of 4807 pilots = 63%
Position on new ISL = 69%
I go from being a fairly senior narrowbody FO and potential reserve capt to bottom third of list.
Hired spring 2001
Current position on CAL list as of August 2013 = 56%
Position on 2010 CAL snapshot using total of 4807 pilots = 63%
Position on new ISL = 69%
I go from being a fairly senior narrowbody FO and potential reserve capt to bottom third of list.
09-05-2013, 07:38 AM
#29
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This thread is noting more than a reach to spread discontent with the ISL.
The truth is if the merge method had been purely percentage or relative seniority based the only person who wouldn't have move is the exact 50% person, and that is impossible.
The day all of us were hired we began life at the bottom and as others were hired we gained relative percentage, as the bottom grew below us, and yet we did not move up one number until someone either retired, died, quit or got sick above us.
It's time to move on and hope management can actually make money.
The truth is if the merge method had been purely percentage or relative seniority based the only person who wouldn't have move is the exact 50% person, and that is impossible.
The day all of us were hired we began life at the bottom and as others were hired we gained relative percentage, as the bottom grew below us, and yet we did not move up one number until someone either retired, died, quit or got sick above us.
It's time to move on and hope management can actually make money.
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