Vacancy Bid
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That is the problem.
#93
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Probe, can you not read??? Show me where in the arbitration and award or the UAL C&Rs it shows what "in the process of training" means and I'm good. Both the CAL C&Rs define it AND the SFO MOU define it in detail.
What is so hard to understand about that? As I said, I'm sure it will be cleared up next month.
What is so hard to understand about that? As I said, I'm sure it will be cleared up next month.
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JP has set the CAL guys up for another fall pursuing a weak definition of training. It's possible he feels he can get a sympathy ruling from the abibrators interpretation. The CAL types need to remember that JP created this false hope. You can't steal. Sorry, we won't let you.
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So is KARMA!! You sound like a ..., well never mind!! Make sure you identify yourself when getting on a flt. if we ever fly together on the 73!! I want to know what type person I'm flying with. However, doesn't sound like it will be hard to tell with you!!
Quick advice, treat seniority like scoring your first touchdown, ACT like you've been there before!! Good Luck, J"unior"Sled
Quick advice, treat seniority like scoring your first touchdown, ACT like you've been there before!! Good Luck, J"unior"Sled
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#96
Just because it doesn't say what you want it say doesn't mean it's vague.
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#97
VERY confusing. Kind of like date of hire was also very confusing for some folks at CAL. The Arbs didn't have much trouble figuring it out for you though. So I wouldn't worry this too has a simple definition. TIME to QUIT playing these games folks!!
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Probe, can you not read??? Show me where in the arbitration and award or the UAL C&Rs it shows what "in the process of training" means and I'm good. Both the CAL C&Rs define it AND the SFO MOU define it in detail.
What is so hard to understand about that? As I said, I'm sure it will be cleared up next month.
What is so hard to understand about that? As I said, I'm sure it will be cleared up next month.

Guys. Don't worry about this little rif. Which is worse? Let them go to training or give them displacement rights? Hopefully we can just move on. There will be plenty of vacancies in the future. JMHO.
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#99
I say let them go to training. That just puts more padding at the bottom for me when I get my bump letter in the near future. I'll just slide in on top them. No problem here.
However, being confused as to what "in training" means is pretty weak no matter how you cut it.
However, being confused as to what "in training" means is pretty weak no matter how you cut it.
#100
A pilot that's been through this vacancy/displacement cycle more than once could argue that it's in everybody's interest to have super junior pilots in every fleet/seat to maximize the ability of more senior pilots to bump anywhere.
This whole thing is clearly being fostered by folks who haven't quite yet grasped the methodology contained in the UPA and/or realized the SLI is over. Seniority always wins in the end.
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