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01-11-2014 | 04:23 AM
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Sunvox,
Some of the items that you are looking for are available on CCS: I have listed a few. I don't know anything about what the instructors can pull up or have access to:
I don't know of a way to pull up another pilots schedule, but you can find the pairing information under the "Flight Planning" tab.
There are pairing summaries for all CAT's. They are located in the Bid Packages tab, which is below the the Bidding tab.
Some of the items that you are looking for are available on CCS: I have listed a few. I don't know anything about what the instructors can pull up or have access to:
I don't know of a way to pull up another pilots schedule, but you can find the pairing information under the "Flight Planning" tab.
There are pairing summaries for all CAT's. They are located in the Bid Packages tab, which is below the the Bidding tab.
Super - thanks! I'm sure I'll learn tons more once I start flying with EWR 756 pilots next month, but in the meantime thanks for the help.
01-11-2014 | 07:56 AM
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The step backwards in technology is frustrating for us.
01-11-2014 | 08:04 AM
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So it's not that you can't operate the system, it is that the system is limited in the information it provides? No argument there. The FIFO is completely unacceptable as is the crew meal info.
Some of the other information, such as the aircraft's next leg, are available if you know where to look.
Some of the other information, such as the aircraft's next leg, are available if you know where to look.
Do you remember when you got your most recent smartphone?
Was there a "user manual"? Probably not. If such a powerful tool and computer you can hold in your hands doesn't need a user manual, then CCS shouldn't need one.
This is a step backwards for UAL pilots. A big one. We had a robust system that would tell us everything. Everything. It was only a 6 on a scale of 1-10 for user interface, but CCS is about a 3 and its really frustrating for us.
Your frame of reference is that this is probably all you have used, but all the LUAL pilots have used both systems and its not because we aren't used to it. We are smart guys. We change airplanes and learn new things.
If you went from your guppy to flying a DC-3 you'd probably wonder where all your technology went.
That's what this system is like for us.
01-11-2014 | 08:10 AM
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Well, let's see:
FIFO: Never used that system.
Crew Meals: Didn't have them.
Aircraft Next Leg: It's printed on the release, easy to find.
Other pilot's schedules: If I were to guess, it is probably a corporate privacy matter. I really have no idea, nor have I ever had the need to look at someone else's schedule.
FIFO: Never used that system.
Crew Meals: Didn't have them.
Aircraft Next Leg: It's printed on the release, easy to find.
Other pilot's schedules: If I were to guess, it is probably a corporate privacy matter. I really have no idea, nor have I ever had the need to look at someone else's schedule.
Its about enforcing the contract, not spying on other pilots. We aren't talking about their SSN or anything. This is simply looking at corporate scheduling and in no company that I know are employees schedules secret, except maybe CIA or NSA. Most companies post schedules for EVERYONE to see.
Not at CAL. Its all a big mystery.
We've already had pilots assigned to reserve trips who should not have been, but they can't tell and the crew desk is violating the contract by doing this.
01-11-2014 | 08:12 AM
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Screw up some pilot scheduling and it can cost them BIG TIME. They would have been better off with the better more expensive system most likely.
01-11-2014 | 08:29 AM
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If you can't look at other pilots schedules, then how do you know if some guy who was junior to you got a trip you should have, or not in the right position in the FIFO queue, or they skipped you to give the trip to someone else, or they gave it to you when someone else should have had it?
Its about enforcing the contract, not spying on other pilots. We aren't talking about their SSN or anything. This is simply looking at corporate scheduling and in no company that I know are employees schedules secret, except maybe CIA or NSA. Most companies post schedules for EVERYONE to see.
Not at CAL. Its all a big mystery.
We've already had pilots assigned to reserve trips who should not have been, but they can't tell and the crew desk is violating the contract by doing this.
Its about enforcing the contract, not spying on other pilots. We aren't talking about their SSN or anything. This is simply looking at corporate scheduling and in no company that I know are employees schedules secret, except maybe CIA or NSA. Most companies post schedules for EVERYONE to see.
Not at CAL. Its all a big mystery.
We've already had pilots assigned to reserve trips who should not have been, but they can't tell and the crew desk is violating the contract by doing this.
I've read some of your posts and you seem pretty upset.
The people that you work with are not going to change...ever.
You should quit/retire from United Airlines.
Then, you'll be happy.
01-11-2014 | 11:04 AM
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If you can't look at other pilots schedules, then how do you know if some guy who was junior to you got a trip you should have, or not in the right position in the FIFO queue, or they skipped you to give the trip to someone else, or they gave it to you when someone else should have had it?
Its about enforcing the contract, not spying on other pilots. We aren't talking about their SSN or anything. This is simply looking at corporate scheduling and in no company that I know are employees schedules secret, except maybe CIA or NSA. Most companies post schedules for EVERYONE to see.
Not at CAL. Its all a big mystery.
We've already had pilots assigned to reserve trips who should not have been, but they can't tell and the crew desk is violating the contract by doing this.
Its about enforcing the contract, not spying on other pilots. We aren't talking about their SSN or anything. This is simply looking at corporate scheduling and in no company that I know are employees schedules secret, except maybe CIA or NSA. Most companies post schedules for EVERYONE to see.
Not at CAL. Its all a big mystery.
We've already had pilots assigned to reserve trips who should not have been, but they can't tell and the crew desk is violating the contract by doing this.
If you want to know where a trip went, plug the trip number in Ccs and see who is flying it. Fairly simple.
01-11-2014 | 11:27 AM
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