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01-11-2014, 12:26 PM
#31
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Originally Posted by pilot64golfer
That attitude is part of the problem. At LUAL the attitude was "If you don't like it, then help make a change that will make it better." Not you! Your answer for EVERYTHING is blame the CAL guys!!
This defeatist attitude is why CALALPA was a mess, the old CAL contract was a mess, and nobody bothered to fix PBS.
Pre-SLI all we heard about from CAL guys were how bad their PBS system was and we should have voted no on the contract to get a new one. Now we are being told that its "not that bad, we just don't understand it". There are already 2 councils that have passed resolutions to vastly improve PBS.
We will change and make it better, but we need everyone on board and willing to help and not just be satisfied with the status quo.
Do you know why I'm upset? Its because I believe that as hard as all of us have worked to become professional pilotsAgain not you!! with all your divisive comments, the sacrifices we have made on both the CAL and UAL sides pre-merger to keep our companies going, and that we really do work for the best airline out there, that we deserve to be treated better by management and that the systems that we use to manage our work lives and careers should be USER FRIENDLY and ROBUST and not the messes that they are.
We have all put in too much energy defending our pre-merger self-importance, and that clearly has to end if we are going to fix the problems we have. GREAT ADVICE try following it!!It starts with a better leader in the CEO position.
We all deserve better. Period.
This defeatist attitude is why CALALPA was a mess, the old CAL contract was a mess, and nobody bothered to fix PBS.
Pre-SLI all we heard about from CAL guys were how bad their PBS system was and we should have voted no on the contract to get a new one. Now we are being told that its "not that bad, we just don't understand it". There are already 2 councils that have passed resolutions to vastly improve PBS.
We will change and make it better, but we need everyone on board and willing to help and not just be satisfied with the status quo.
Do you know why I'm upset? Its because I believe that as hard as all of us have worked to become professional pilotsAgain not you!! with all your divisive comments, the sacrifices we have made on both the CAL and UAL sides pre-merger to keep our companies going, and that we really do work for the best airline out there, that we deserve to be treated better by management and that the systems that we use to manage our work lives and careers should be USER FRIENDLY and ROBUST and not the messes that they are.
We have all put in too much energy defending our pre-merger self-importance, and that clearly has to end if we are going to fix the problems we have. GREAT ADVICE try following it!!It starts with a better leader in the CEO position.
We all deserve better. Period.
01-11-2014, 01:41 PM
#32
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Originally Posted by pilot64golfer
If you can't look at other pilots schedules, then how do you know if some guy who was junior to you got a trip you should have, or not in the right position in the FIFO queue, or they skipped you to give the trip to someone else, or they gave it to you when someone else should have had it?
Its about enforcing the contract, not spying on other pilots. We aren't talking about their SSN or anything. This is simply looking at corporate scheduling and in no company that I know are employees schedules secret, except maybe CIA or NSA. Most companies post schedules for EVERYONE to see.
Not at CAL. Its all a big mystery.
Its about enforcing the contract, not spying on other pilots. We aren't talking about their SSN or anything. This is simply looking at corporate scheduling and in no company that I know are employees schedules secret, except maybe CIA or NSA. Most companies post schedules for EVERYONE to see.
Not at CAL. Its all a big mystery.
Rather then read that and learn you would rather blabber on and on about how CAL has wrecked your once perfect jumbonaut career. In my eyes it shows your true motivations for this board. Quite frankly its proof positive that you are one of the forever moaners who will NEVER be content. I rolled my eyes at your ilk at CAL and certainly will at THE U.
01-11-2014, 02:14 PM
#33
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Originally Posted by intrepidcv11
I and others have laid out on this board and the other one how to determine what pilot was assigned a trip. It's rather simple actually.
01-11-2014, 02:15 PM
#34
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Originally Posted by Really
I know you will just come back with a "you all are the problem!!"
01-11-2014, 02:41 PM
#35
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Part of the change with CCS is it takes multiple pages to do the detective work to figure something out. It looks intentional, and tries to hide what the company is doing. In many cases with our old fortran based UNIMATIC, it was one page and obvious.
Yes it will take time to learn, but you shouldn't have to be a detective to figure out what is going on. Pilots just love to learn new things.
Yes it will take time to learn, but you shouldn't have to be a detective to figure out what is going on. Pilots just love to learn new things.
01-11-2014, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald
Part of the change with CCS is it takes multiple pages to do the detective work to figure something out. It looks intentional, and tries to hide what the company is doing. In many cases with our old fortran based UNIMATIC, it was one page and obvious.
Yes it will take time to learn, but you shouldn't have to be a detective to figure out what is going on. Pilots just love to learn new things.
Yes it will take time to learn, but you shouldn't have to be a detective to figure out what is going on. Pilots just love to learn new things.
01-12-2014, 05:13 PM
#39
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Position: A320 Captain
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Originally Posted by Monkeyfly
Do the PBS awards ever come out early, (like in the Adopt system) or can we expect them to always come on the last day?
The center column tab labeled CAT Award Reports in PBS is the first place they will start appearing. The captain awards always show up first, followed by the FO awards at the smaller bases, followed by EWR and IAH 737. The captain awards will probably start appearing on the 14th or 15th. The FO bids perhaps late on 16th they will start showing up...but more likely afternoon of 17th.
PBS will still have the red warning letters up there saying access is temporarily disabled blah, blah, but you should be able to find what you need.
01-12-2014, 06:29 PM
#40
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Originally Posted by Monkeyfly
Do the PBS awards ever come out early, (like in the Adopt system) or can we expect them to always come on the last day?
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