Interview Calls & Hiring Predictions
06-23-2015 | 06:44 AM
#1431
On Reserve
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VERY few RJ FOs are attending classes. Like 1 to 3 for every 20. They are also doing other things like ALPA volunteer work, attending multiple job fairs, and really pounding on the door to show interest.
06-23-2015 | 08:12 AM
#1432
Layover Master
Joined: Jan 2013
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Very few? The numbers you've just proposed are 5-15%. That's not "very few", especially when many of us with many more hours, tpic, volunteer work, job fairs, etc are also "pounding on the door". I've done more than submit an airlineapp....
06-23-2015 | 08:53 AM
#1433
New Hire
Joined: Feb 2015
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I would think that if you're fully confident in your hand flying skills in the 737 AND have the United takeoff and missed profiles they send you down cold, you'd be fine without it. The prep is really excellent if a person's scan is good but they're just not familiar with the 737 cockpit setup. If in doubt, I think it's worthwhile. On the other hand, I have a friend who made the cut without the prep or any 737 time, but he admitted it wasn't exactly pretty. They do give you a few turns, climbs and descents to warm up first.
Any insiders know when/how often they update the interview slots through the online system? As of this morning there weren't any slots to choose from. Sign of a slow down, or just haven't gotten around to populating the site with new slots? Also, I'm currently on a 737; for those that have gone through the sim prep and interview so far, would it still be worth it for me to buy the sim time? (The answer to this question is always "yes", however if I'm currently flying the guppy, is it really necessary?)
06-23-2015 | 09:37 AM
#1434
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I would recommend getting this sense of entitlement out of your mind. Those guys who came from RJs earned it by doing other stuff and by networking. (No I have never flown an RJ) What makes you and your resume different and stand out from the other guys with heavy/mil experience? Do some networking and you'll get the call I'm sure. I just wouldn't recommend walking in with the "why has it taken you guys so long to call me when you've been hiring all these RJ people?" Attitude. They'll sense it, if the Hogan doesn't before hand.
06-23-2015 | 10:38 AM
#1435
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From: B756 FO
I would recommend getting this sense of entitlement out of your mind. Those guys who came from RJs earned it by doing other stuff and by networking. (No I have never flown an RJ) What makes you and your resume different and stand out from the other guys with heavy/mil experience? Do some networking and you'll get the call I'm sure. I just wouldn't recommend walking in with the "why has it taken you guys so long to call me when you've been hiring all these RJ people?" Attitude. They'll sense it, if the Hogan doesn't before hand.
06-23-2015 | 11:27 AM
#1436
Atmospheric Penetrator
Joined: Aug 2005
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I'm aware that I'm giving off a sense of entitlement and irritation in my posts. But I think I am the small voice speaking for many in the same situation. I do not feel as though I am entitled to any job, unless I can prove it in an interview, sim session, etc.
My point is: what is networking and why is it so important? Networking=bulsh*t artistry. Are we looking for pilots or televangelists?
I've been outside the U.S. industry for 8+ years now. I don't have the opportunity to 'network' with United, Delta, AA, or FedEx employees. Does that mean that an RJ F/O should be considered before me? Absolute short-sighted nonsense.
My point is: what is networking and why is it so important? Networking=bulsh*t artistry. Are we looking for pilots or televangelists?
I've been outside the U.S. industry for 8+ years now. I don't have the opportunity to 'network' with United, Delta, AA, or FedEx employees. Does that mean that an RJ F/O should be considered before me? Absolute short-sighted nonsense.
06-23-2015 | 11:34 AM
#1437
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Joined: May 2015
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From: 777 CA
I'm aware that I'm giving off a sense of entitlement and irritation in my posts. But I think I am the small voice speaking for many in the same situation. I do not feel as though I am entitled to any job, unless I can prove it in an interview, sim session, etc.
My point is: what is networking and why is it so important? Networking=bulsh*t artistry. Are we looking for pilots or televangelists?
I've been outside the U.S. industry for 8+ years now. I don't have the opportunity to 'network' with United, Delta, AA, or FedEx employees. Does that mean that an RJ F/O should be considered before me? Absolute short-sighted nonsense.
My point is: what is networking and why is it so important? Networking=bulsh*t artistry. Are we looking for pilots or televangelists?
I've been outside the U.S. industry for 8+ years now. I don't have the opportunity to 'network' with United, Delta, AA, or FedEx employees. Does that mean that an RJ F/O should be considered before me? Absolute short-sighted nonsense.
"Everyone who has an application on file is qualified to get the job. Our job is to find the people who fit our culture and we would like to work with in the cockpit for hours on end. LORs add weight to that part. If a person can spend enough time getting the required mins and not meet people who are willing to go out of their way to help them land the job, it's probably saying something about the personality of said individual."
Just how one person on the hiring board in the 90s when I was hired explained the networking aspect to me.
06-23-2015 | 12:42 PM
#1439
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jul 2007
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From: 787 FO
Why don't send your resume and those awesome jokes to the VP of Operations. Let him know that they have been screwing up in their hiring and that he can pick your brain (after he has hired you for direct entry A350 Capt) on who UAL should hire.
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