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Old 05-19-2015, 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Probe View Post
Looking back, most of the times I got screwed it was when I was doing them a favor, or just did one. Amazing.

Doing the honorable thing at United gets you screwed.
This is a business. It isn't the military, and they don't care if you're honorable or not. I prefer honesty personally when it comes to life, but knowing who you're dealing with and their perspective makes all the difference. We are a cost line on a spreadsheet to United airlines. Follow the contract, enforce and move on. This is a business transaction. The second that anyone hopes for more they've lost. United (read as any large business) just doesn't care. Modern merica. Warts and all.

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Old 05-19-2015, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 4 x 4 View Post
About how long to hold line in ORD?
At least 17 years on the bus (FO seat)
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Old 05-19-2015, 04:36 PM
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These same DEN guys bi$@$ about being on reserve for 17 years. Well, sorry guys, that's the facts about staying in DEN. You'd be 20% in EWR. If you'd go somewhere else like everybody else you'd be doing a lot better. Stop complaining.

Based on my look the junior ORD 73 FO line holder is 2013 hire. I'm mid '13 hire and 40 numbers junior.

Stop worrying about that stuff and just get hired. It's gonna get better fast. It might (probably) suck for a bit. Why are guys/gals trying to get hired so picky? "I want to get hired but only if I can get ORD lines quickly." Really? Fine. Stay at your regional.
I AM hired just waiting on class and trying to get an idea about the company. I was hoping ORD would not be so senior because I have about 12 direct options for commuting. EWR an IAD will require a 2 leg commute for me. Oh well. Not coming from a regional either
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Old 05-19-2015, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by NFLUALNFL View Post
At least 17 years on the bus (FO seat)

Wow, Thanks
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Old 05-19-2015, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 4 x 4 View Post
Wow, Thanks
73 is much more junior in ORD, the unknown is its growth there. Welcome aboard and good luck.
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Old 05-19-2015, 05:56 PM
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73 is much more junior in ORD, the unknown is its growth there. Welcome aboard and good luck.
Thanks. .
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Old 05-19-2015, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott Stoops View Post
This is a business. It isn't the military, and they don't care if you're honorable or not. I prefer honesty personally when it comes to life, but knowing who you're dealing with and their perspective makes all the difference. We are a cost line on a spreadsheet to United airlines. Follow the contract, enforce and move on. This is a business transaction. The second that anyone hopes for more they've lost. United (read as any large business) just doesn't care. Modern merica. Warts and all.
I disagree. I WISH we were just a line on a spreadsheet. We are not. They consider us an adversary to be vanquished, and most of us view UAL the same way.

Hence our long term "home" at the bottom of every airline quality ranking and operational metric.
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Old 05-19-2015, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Probe View Post
I disagree. I WISH we were just a line on a spreadsheet. We are not. They consider us an adversary to be vanquished, and most of us view UAL the same way.

Hence our long term "home" at the bottom of every airline quality ranking and operational metric.
When you negotiate a deal on a car, do you pressure the salesperson? This is absolutely adversarial. It's always been that way. Sometimes it seems like it isn't, but it always is.

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Old 05-19-2015, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 4 x 4 View Post
I AM hired just waiting on class and trying to get an idea about the company. I was hoping ORD would not be so senior because I have about 12 direct options for commuting. EWR an IAD will require a 2 leg commute for me. Oh well. Not coming from a regional either
Where do you live? Remember you can commute on anyone. FedEx can be a life saver and the lowest stress commute if you don't mind flying over night. Most of the airplanes that don't have lie flat seats have a futon, or just bring a snuggie and an inflatable mattress. Seriously.
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Old 05-19-2015, 08:02 PM
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Thanks. .
I know a guy hired 6-7 months ago, based in ord on the Airbus.
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