This contract is a vast improvement over what either legacy had in their concessionary contracts prior to the UPA. However, the reasons for voting for or against ran the gamut. Personally, my no vote was because it didn't meet the criteria I laid out as my bottom lines when we were going into openers well prior to the merger. I'm OK with anyone's vote as long as they took the time to inform themselves and weigh the pros and cons, but let's not ascribe sinister intent where none exists.

 

I can assure you that my no vote was all about the contract. Specifically the scope section.

 

I can assure that many of the YES votes were to stop the carnage going on at the hands of Jeff, Fred and JayP. Enough said, the YES votes made the decision - democracy at work.

The good things is the next contract will have the stamp of approval by a UNITED PILOT GROUP absent the shenanigans of past LCAL MEC leadership.

 

...and the past CAL negotiating leadership and associated traitors. abbott, milone, martin, pierce, baron. All gone. Finally. Maybe we actually can unite around something? This has not gone how anyone here expected. Perhaps now it just might.

Scott

 

And now, back to the thread


second snapshot is out and with 33 Den Displacement responses and 5 IAH displacement responses still to go, there are a total of 24 (active not Sup) bids going for the DEN 737 CA. Just barely leading the pack ahead of IAH 787 FO (coming in second with 23).

For the junior guys wanting to get to DEN someday, now you just have to hope that future DEN displacements don't take up all the imbalance in the DEN 737 Category and you could get some DEN 737 FO bids some day. With the bids thus far, it would take the imbalance up to 77 more Captains than First Officers. Not too sure how big the company would like the 737 base to be in DEN, so we might get enough bumps in DEN 737 (and 320) in the next rounds to fill up an imbalance, but to Quote Dumb and Dumber "So you're telling me there's a chance"

 

There are still 14 76T FOs yet to bid and half the CAs as well.

 

Could one of the reasons for the UPA to currently restrict grandfather rights to 120 days for displaced pilots be because less than four months out of the seat you don't have to go through Requal. Between 4 and 24 months requires Requal. Beyond 24 months you have to go through the full course. So if the new extended grandfather rights are passed we will have a pool of pilots with 4 to 24 months of grandfather rights. These pilots only require a Requal course not the full course or no course if they lateral on the same equipment to return to their BES. This gives the company a new tool to forcibly move pilots around the system cheaper. A less expensive form of extended TDY.

 

This MGT. Always finds a way to create a distraction. Many of you bought into it last time and still seem to be. It will be the same next time, don't bite.

 

At this point, you have become the distraction to the combined group moving forward. That vote is in the past. People have given you the reasons that they voted yes. Just because you don't like their reason doesn't dimish them. And not matter how many times you try to spin it, to a number of sUAL pilots the only way to stop the whipsaw was to get a JCBA and a combined list. In hind sight I'd vote yes again. I just look at the whipsawing still going on with FAs to see how little the company cares about truly completing this merger.

 

What specifically about the scope section didn't you like?