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10-09-2015, 05:48 PM
#31
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Originally Posted by Flytyin
Trying to make a bid decision...is there a way in CCS to see the seniority needed to hold a line at each of the bases? If not, any EWR Bus FOs out there?
10-09-2015, 07:22 PM
#33
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Joined APC: Jan 2015
Position: F/A-18 Pilot
Posts: 54
Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
Your military so I understand but your question will completely de rail this thread.
Basically a SCAB crossed the picket line during a strike and their lot in life is lower than whale ****.
Basically a SCAB crossed the picket line during a strike and their lot in life is lower than whale ****.
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Originally Posted by bigfatdaddy
Also from a mil background.....still no excuse for not knowing about scabs. a failure of due-diligence...IMHO
Sorry man. Just trying to learn.
Originally Posted by oldmako
His ignorance is just the tip of the iceberg for us. Seriously, we have a ton of guys just itching to go full Marvin. Guys who've been here a while and choose to remain clueless about the ugly history of labor in 121 flying. Its astonishing to me, but they're there.
10-09-2015, 07:30 PM
#34
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Joined APC: May 2015
Position: 777 CA
Posts: 1,029
Originally Posted by OldHrntDrvr
Thank you. Looks as though you are correct. I'll be a union guy for what it is worth...I did not realize there was a choice.
****.
****.
Sorry man. Just trying to learn.
If there is a location to learn about these things...I'm all ears. I thought that is what the forum is for...perhaps not?[/QUOTE]
From Wooden Wings
From Wooden Wings. It's a start. Tells the events surrounding the UAL strike. Then research the POS Frank Lorezo and the CAL strike. You can see how the SCABs allowed him to keep CAL flying. SCABs are the lowest form of pilot on earth. They took a job that real pilots were walking the line trying to protect.
10-10-2015, 06:06 AM
#36
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Posts: 862
Originally Posted by OldHrntDrvr
Cool. Thanks all. Ridicule accepted. No slack in the ready room...
Cheers
Bigfatdaddy
10-10-2015, 07:19 AM
#37
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Position: F/A-18 Pilot
Posts: 54
Originally Posted by bigfatdaddy
Great attitude! And your analogy is apt. A you know, much of the banter and ridicule in a ready room is geared towards the health of the unit. Here on the forums in the digital world it is more difficult, but there are hundreds if not thousands available as resources. If you are up for some light reading I recommend "Flying the Line" vol 1&2. A good primer about scabs, unionism in general, and the origins of our union. OldHrntDrvr this would be a great discussion over beers!
Cheers
Bigfatdaddy
Cheers
Bigfatdaddy
Always down for a beer and a chat. Looking forward to being a part of the Cadre.
10-10-2015, 08:02 AM
#38
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Joined APC: Dec 2012
Posts: 239
Originally Posted by bigfatdaddy
Great attitude! And your analogy is apt. A you know, much of the banter and ridicule in a ready room is geared towards the health of the unit. Here on the forums in the digital world it is more difficult, but there are hundreds if not thousands available as resources. If you are up for some light reading I recommend "Flying the Line" vol 1&2. A good primer about scabs, unionism in general, and the origins of our union. OldHrntDrvr this would be a great discussion over beers!
Cheers
Bigfatdaddy
Cheers
Bigfatdaddy
10-10-2015, 08:20 AM
#39
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Position: backseat
Posts: 103
Don't be too hard on OldHrntDrvr, he doesn't know because no one told him.
I don't know what goes on in new-hire these days but back when I went through, we had ALPA guys come in and meet with us. They also treated us to some beverages at the bar that night. I came from an ALPA carrier and knew ALPA history but I didn't know the things specific to UAL.
I didn't know what a "slick-tie" was or why did some of the flight bags at TK have padlocks on them.
We have a lot of new hires on the property and lot more coming, we need to educate them before they get on the line.
I don't know what goes on in new-hire these days but back when I went through, we had ALPA guys come in and meet with us. They also treated us to some beverages at the bar that night. I came from an ALPA carrier and knew ALPA history but I didn't know the things specific to UAL.
I didn't know what a "slick-tie" was or why did some of the flight bags at TK have padlocks on them.
We have a lot of new hires on the property and lot more coming, we need to educate them before they get on the line.
10-10-2015, 08:42 AM
#40
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Posts: 215
Originally Posted by OldHrntDrvr
Thank you. Looks as though you are correct. I'll be a union guy for what it is worth...I did not realize there was a choice.
****.
****.
Sorry man. Just trying to learn.
If there is a location to learn about these things...I'm all ears. I thought that is what the forum is for...perhaps not?[/QUOTE]
Start by reading "Flying the Line." Part I and then Part II. Then all those other articles will make more sense. Your union rep should be able to get copies for you.
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