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#44
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Are the guys with their pins upside down in EWR trying to make a point about something? As a relatively new guy I'm not sure if that is just as bad as sporting a slick tie?
#45
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I wonder the same thing when I see legacy U guys wearing legacy wings. What's with the clown act? Don't get the point...
#46
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It's their childish way of pouting. They like the protections and service of ALPA but only when it benefits them. Not for them to worry, BS will be there soon to make their life better. Huh? Did I hear BS say he knew how the system worked?
#47
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Pre-SLI CAL hired new pilots, and as a favor, we hired furloughed UA pilots, only later to have ALPA make them senior to us. We got tricked into hiring them and would have been better off hiring new hires off the street. Those pilots pushed the rest of the UA pilots up the seniority list affecting the entire list. Some of us lost a ton of seniority because of ALPA.
#48
Pre-SLI CAL hired new pilots, and as a favor, we hired furloughed UA pilots, only later to have ALPA make them senior to us. We got tricked into hiring them and would have been better off hiring new hires off the street. Those pilots pushed the rest of the UA pilots up the seniority list affecting the entire list. Some of us lost a ton of seniority because of ALPA.
Your "FAVOR"
had nothing to do with how the MEDIATOR put the list together.I'm a post merger hire, hired while you were doing a "FAVOR" to the furloughed United pilots, and I can tell you are a complete tool.
Do us all a favor and throw your pin in the garbage you don't deserve to wear it, because you clearly don't have our backs.
#49
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From: 777 CA
Pre-SLI CAL hired new pilots, and as a favor, we hired furloughed UA pilots, only later to have ALPA make them senior to us. We got tricked into hiring them and would have been better off hiring new hires off the street. Those pilots pushed the rest of the UA pilots up the seniority list affecting the entire list. Some of us lost a ton of seniority because of ALPA.
#50
Pre-SLI CAL hired new pilots, and as a favor, we hired furloughed UA pilots, only later to have ALPA make them senior to us. We got tricked into hiring them and would have been better off hiring new hires off the street. Those pilots pushed the rest of the UA pilots up the seniority list affecting the entire list. Some of us lost a ton of seniority because of ALPA.
How did the fact that a UA furloughed pilot who went to work for CAL influence the arbs? What about the UA furloughed pilot that did not go to work for CAL? It would seem it did not make any difference. A formula that gives credit for longevity is likely to result in a list where furlough status is not the sole constraint on ones final position. The UA furloughees working at CAL were placed on the list, because of their position on the pre-merger UA list, which could not be changed.
So, I am confused how you lost a "ton of seniority" or why ALPA is to blame for your plight. As a disinterested party, it seems like it was a fair process to me. This is great discussion in the bar, but changes nothing. If I was still working, I would wear my ALPA pin, because it sends a message to management.
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