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Old 08-02-2016 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by intrepidcv11
Once sat next to Mr Carr in first going to Europe pre merg. Walked away thinking he was a nut job. Tried to warn many friends that they were gonna give to a lost cause run by quack. Some minds were changed, but sadly not all. Well done legal system.
Yeah. A real right wing kinda guy from his FB posts (thought right wingers were against lawsuit abuse??).
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Old 08-02-2016 | 01:41 PM
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A fool (s) and his (their) money are soon parted.
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Old 08-02-2016 | 02:50 PM
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They would have had WAY more fun taking that money and going to Las Vegas. Odds better at the blackjack table, and the remainder could have been used on "entertainment".

Time to move on.
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Old 08-03-2016 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaded N Cynical
They would have had WAY more fun taking that money and going to Las Vegas. Odds better at the blackjack table, and the remainder could have been used on "entertainment".

Time to move on.
I thought in LAS you were supposed to balance gambling with wine, women, and song? Oops, I think that's what you meant by "entertainment." Agree completely. Much more fun!
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Old 08-04-2016 | 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by DashTrash
Well at least the attorneys made a lot of money...
Yes and believe the CAL pilot who started has his wives law firm handing case. Total waste of money and I lost total respect for said pilot and I'm EX CAL.
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Old 08-04-2016 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Boeing Aviator
Yes and believe the CAL pilot who started has his wives law firm handing case. Total waste of money and I lost total respect for said pilot and I'm EX CAL.
Wow I thought I heard every pilot scam story. Marry a lawyer and stir up ****e at work to get pilots to sue.

We are a very innovative and inventive group.
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Old 08-04-2016 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Boeing Aviator
Yes and believe the CAL pilot who started has his wives law firm handing case. Total waste of money and I lost total respect for said pilot and I'm EX CAL.
Total 100% over the top D'Baggery if that is true.
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Old 08-04-2016 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Airhoss
Total 100% over the top D'Baggery if that is true.
I never held much credence in the suit to begin with. I knew a long time ago when I heard the ALPA lawyers tell pilots to their faces that it was OK and legal for ALPA to use ALPA moneys to represent and negotiate on behalf of regional carriers who were going after our scope clauses, our routes, and our revenue streams and ultimately our livelihoods and incomes that internal conflicts of interest exist within ALPA and they are sort of danced around, not talked about publicly, and on their face unethical, but are entirely legal. Therefore, I knew then that ALPA was under no legally compelling or binding way obligated to be "fair" (whatever that really means) as it relates to a merger process.

The real lesson here goes back to when ALPA was courting Continental and kept pushing it's public version of their ultra-cool and ultra-"fair" merger policy and the ALPA tool box. ALPA didn't make any references to what it deemed as a "fair process" to the CAL pilots and really the vote to join ALPA was going to fail unless ALPA was successful in winning over the CAL Express pilots. Without their votes the entire CAL going back to ALPA would have failed. So, likely it was those former express pilots that feel "jipped" the most. They bought it hook, line, and sinker and feel like ALPA lied to them in the "courting process." That's just how they feel. But, remember this, if it wasn't for them and their votes to join ALPA in the first place, we wouldn't even be having this virtual discussion on fair and equitable, for the ALPA policy manual, and the differences between the two CAL ALPA and UAL ALPA policy manuals would be a moot point.
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Old 08-05-2016 | 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by baseball
So, likely it was those former express pilots that feel "jipped" the most.
The biggest heartburn is with the bottom third of the L-CAL seniority list, Continental joined ALPA in 1995. I doubt anyone from the bottom third was even working at an Express carrier when the vote to join ALPA was taken.
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Old 08-05-2016 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by JoePatroni
The biggest heartburn is with the bottom third of the L-CAL seniority list, Continental joined ALPA in 1995. I doubt anyone from the bottom third was even working at an Express carrier when the vote to join ALPA was taken.
CAL rejoined ALPA in early 2001.
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