That's not what I see in Oregon and Washington State.

 

I think the problem lies in ones inability to separate the people from the politics. You can disagree with the conflict de jour without disrespecting those who have sworn to serve. The POTUS and his/her cabinet aren't out in cafes/grocery stores etc where people can air their disagreements directly. Often the sneers/comments one in uniform might get are misguided (like the comment(s)I received in uniform yesterday from passengers waiting for cabs and ****ed at Delta Airlines for the cancellations). They just see a uniform and that uniform represents the grievance and they need to vent(as frustrating as that might be to those on the receiving end).

 

I agree with all of that. Very well said.

 

Sorry you see it that way. But it's not really well worn if you keep having these types of problems at a company. CAL was having problems with this stuff and it ended up biting them in the booty. Must be something to it because that suit is still alive and well.

I don't think it was a coincidence that a L UAL pilot, who was out on mil leave (or furlough - I don't recall),was the attorney of record, suing on behalf of the affected CAL pilots. He most certainly wasn't popping smoke. As I recall, he was a hornet driver who did what ALPA would not do, and that was represent these pilots issues and interests.

 

One problem that CAL started to notice was that military pilots were increasingly skeptical about applying to Continental due to the hostile work environment. If there was one or two CAL guys in your squadron there was always discussion about the climate at CAL and what was going on over there. There were more than a few perspective applicants that didn't even show up to the interview because they felt employment there would be incompatible with their guard/reserve job, or just too stressful to put up with the crapp.

When the lawsuit made the law review magazines, and got publicity in the west coast news markets and on the local news stations in LA, San Fran, and San Diego and in the Penn State law review magazine it got peoples attention. Ultimately the US Supreme Court heard arguments about some of the causes of action. If it gets to the US Supreme Court, then it's a big deal.

One odd thing about what CAL was doing was they had the director of International Flight Operations go out and call military guys. He was off the radar and not in any of the flight offices. In retrospect it was a brilliant move on Abbot's part. He essentially tried to maintain plausible deniability. It came out in the wash when this guy called the Pentagon to use a "friendly contact" to inquire about a US Navy Reservist's status. His contact told him that this particular Navy reservist wasn't actually a reservist. Funny....He got hammered by the Secretary of the Navy for firing a Lieutenant Commander for mil lv abuse.

 

If the director you are talking about was AJ, no surprise there. He was another ladder climber who had his eye on Abbott's job, fortunately the merger cut him off at the knees. He was a complete a-hole when he was an ACP.

 

As a liberal democrat, of course you "find it offensive". Par for the course. No one cares what you "find offensive".

 

Isn't there a tax break for the airlines that allows their aircraft to be used by the military? That's why there is a flag on the side of many airlines or are the airlines just "abusing" that privilege for a tax break.

This book should answer any questions regarding those that serve (or military leave abuse):
The USERRA Manual: Uniformed Services E... | Legal Solutions

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth a war, is much worse. A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. As long as justice and injustice have not terminated their ever-renewing fight for ascendancy in the affairs of mankind, human beings must be willing, when need is, to do battle for the one against the other.” John Stewart Mill

Thank you to those that serve us!!!

 

I am sorry to hear you are a liberal democrat. That's sad.

Every issue is political. Find me one that's not. One's political upbringing and frame of reference has allot to do with how you see the issues; not just some issues, but all issues.

I do generalize, and I do so for convenience.

If you are a liberal democrat, then you and your group favor: higher taxes, more social justice, more LBGTQ rights and justice, weaker military, unlimited immigration, reduced second amendment rights, unfettered immigration, outsourcing of manufacturing (NAFTA, and similar deals), increased welfare, increased unemployment benefits, increased social benefits, free college, free weed, and a free American dream absent of any hard work and dedication.

The real threat to our country, and frankly any profession that may ultimately reward hard work and dedication is the morally bankrupt liberal agenda. If the agenda is against the following: "You earn what you get, and you get what you earn." Then, that's a morally bankrupt agenda. You sir, as a liberal democrat scare me, offend me, and I for one don't really care what you have to say about anything, for all subject matters that you have are tainted and polluted by your liberal mind-set.

I think it was a great democrat who said: Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country. I like that. Wish all democrats would go back and read those words. Translation: stop being a drag on fellow tax-payers, and pull your weight.

 

The democrat party is no longer the working mans party.

It's become the party of special interests. The manipulation of people and their money is what this party is all about. It preys on people's insecurities and their prejudices.

Look at how many times Hillary has changed opinions on the issues. They will say whatever they need to say to "capture" a majority of votes in a key special interest category or demographic.

I don't like ALPA's loyalty to the democrat party. It's blind, and it's foolish. Democrats want us to keep paying higher taxes. We work hard to build the skills and experience to land this job, and sacrifice allot while doing it. it's called delayed gratification. There may be 15 years of poverty and sacrifice only to finally get a good job at a major. Nothing wrong with that. But, when you finally get there, the democrats tell you that you need to fund 50 other famalies who didn't aspire, didn't work, didn't pull their weight. Then you need to subsidize all those who come here illegally and then you need to give them free health care, free education, and then the democrats just let out all the prisoners who were law-breakers at alarming rates. Then they empty the cells at GITMO and put more terrorists back out there to hurt us again.

Nothing that happened during the liberal democrat Obama administration is good for us a country, or as a profession. I don't want ALPA to bleed democrat all the damn time. Time for ALPA to grow up. I'd like to see ALPA come out against Hillary's tax plan.

Agreed: everything's political.