What exactly is the Hogan? I am a United Captain and no one has ever explained it to me. I would love to see it, just so I know what it's all about. Never took it at CAL.

 

This link will help..

Hogan Personality test

 

First class from CommutAir is in November. 5 pilots.

 

Me neither!

HR has taken over the whole hiring process which is really sad. Lots of good prospects are getting passed over or not even being considered.

When I went through the process almost thirty years ago you went before a panel of two or three senior captains. They looked over your logbooks and had a nice informal chat.

I believe that HR really has no place hiring pilots. Pilots should be hiring pilots! Weak pilots were weeded out during training and the psychos never made it through probation.

I guess these days it's more PC to have HR determine what makes a good pilot. I prefer the old way!

 

The Hogan assessment has been around for a while now. I was hired in 2007 by United and I had to do it then. There were approx 150 or so new hires in 07-08 and we were the first batch to be subjected to the Hogan. Back then, I had to take the Hogan at a secure testing facility. I had to provide proof of identification and was in a secure testing environment. I would not be surprised if there was some secret underground racket going on where someone can take the Hogan test for someone else. If so, it would be a pretty ballsy move.

My interview was in Chicago at the old UAL HQ building. There was no sim. It was one hour of technical with a captain and the other hour was HR related. Only a two person panel and it was relatively quick. he van driver on the way back to the airport. I think word got back a

Like it or not, I believe HR's involvement in the hiring process is here to stay.

For the record, I agree with the way it was done before. I do think HR should have some involvement in the process, but no where near as much as they do today.

just my humble $.02

C17D

 

I will say that after flying with many newhires in the last few years that the current system seems to be working just fine. High quality individuals to a person.

 

This.

And also hiring some complete toolbags also directly because of this. Bring back the mostly Pilots interviewing Pilots routine we had years ago.

 

Since you can apparently "practice" for a personality test....what's the use?
You buy test prep online for $39.95..........

 

I always say apply to each airline you MAY consider working at, including the reapply after a 'failed' Hogan test or whatever. Once an offer comes your way, that is the time to give it consideration.

The hiring rules, policies, & procedures change over the years. No sense putting up a futile effort fighting it, adapt, go forward, and persevere.

 

^^This. All of the absolutely best candidates I know have been ignored by UA.....and hired by Delta.