17-03v
11-10-2016 | 06:58 AM
#31
Banned
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each group wants more than the other group. (retired, senior, 18 yr double furlough, new hires)
i fly with new fo's who are earning now what i was earning as a 25 yr captain under the bk contract.
baseball is a typical pilot tool.
11-10-2016 | 07:19 AM
#32
Guppy reserve EWR
Joined: Feb 2013
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From: 737 FO
I kid, I kid.
11-10-2016 | 07:47 AM
#33
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Joined: May 2015
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From: 777 CA
I agree with him. I don't want any changes. It absolutely sucked for the old hats getting screwed out of the A plan, but we ALL lost our A plan.
11-10-2016 | 08:18 AM
#34
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Joined: Dec 2010
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From: 2172
OK, so back to this 17-03v vacancy thing...
Looking at the snapshot from yesterday, I've got a question for the WB guys. Why are the 777 FO slots going senior to the 787 FO slots?
The 777 slots in the snapshot are going from 6000 seniority to 10,000.
The 787 slots go from 7800 to 11,700. So there's about an 1800 seniority shift, or two years seniority, mas o menos.
Any theories on this from some SFO wide body guys?
QOL is better? more efficient trips on the triple? Why the difference here?
Looking at the snapshot from yesterday, I've got a question for the WB guys. Why are the 777 FO slots going senior to the 787 FO slots?
The 777 slots in the snapshot are going from 6000 seniority to 10,000.
The 787 slots go from 7800 to 11,700. So there's about an 1800 seniority shift, or two years seniority, mas o menos.
Any theories on this from some SFO wide body guys?
QOL is better? more efficient trips on the triple? Why the difference here?
11-10-2016 | 08:32 AM
#35
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OK, so back to this 17-03v vacancy thing...
Looking at the snapshot from yesterday, I've got a question for the WB guys. Why are the 777 FO slots going senior to the 787 FO slots?
The 777 slots in the snapshot are going from 6000 seniority to 10,000.
The 787 slots go from 7800 to 11,700. So there's about an 1800 seniority shift, or two years seniority, mas o menos.
Any theories on this from some SFO wide body guys?
QOL is better? more efficient trips on the triple? Why the difference here?
Looking at the snapshot from yesterday, I've got a question for the WB guys. Why are the 777 FO slots going senior to the 787 FO slots?
The 777 slots in the snapshot are going from 6000 seniority to 10,000.
The 787 slots go from 7800 to 11,700. So there's about an 1800 seniority shift, or two years seniority, mas o menos.
Any theories on this from some SFO wide body guys?
QOL is better? more efficient trips on the triple? Why the difference here?
11-10-2016 | 09:35 AM
#36
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Just my guess, but junior 787 flying in SFO increasingly sucks. You won't avoid a 5-6 day China trip esp in summer once you get past 50%. Can't trade out of them and those trips get old fast. Senior stuff is some of best in system, but other then occasional bunkie seat you won't get it.
2 things you don't want to miss in China: 1.) The tour of the Great Wall. 2.) Your flight outta there.
SFO 787 has largely become the China shuttle, and many astute practitioners can't come up with a good reason to justify going there. It's not quality of life, sanitation, air quality, personal hygiene, food safety, or clean water.
11-10-2016 | 09:37 AM
#37
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Just my guess, but junior 787 flying in SFO increasingly sucks. You won't avoid a 5-6 day China trip esp in summer once you get past 50%. Can't trade out of them and those trips get old fast. Senior stuff is some of best in system, but other then occasional bunkie seat you won't get it.
11-10-2016 | 09:44 AM
#38
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I think the ALPA rank and file were quite vocal, but if my memory is correct, it was ALPA President, Continental Captain John Prater who led the charge. Any assertion that "it was going to happen anyway, and ALPA just wanted a seat at the table" is resignation. That was within 18 months of him also announcing that we had to put "the scab issue" behind us. How proud we all were.
11-10-2016 | 09:58 AM
#39
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Joined: Feb 2012
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From: 787
OK, so back to this 17-03v vacancy thing...
Looking at the snapshot from yesterday, I've got a question for the WB guys. Why are the 777 FO slots going senior to the 787 FO slots?
The 777 slots in the snapshot are going from 6000 seniority to 10,000.
The 787 slots go from 7800 to 11,700. So there's about an 1800 seniority shift, or two years seniority, mas o menos.
Any theories on this from some SFO wide body guys?
QOL is better? more efficient trips on the triple? Why the difference here?
Looking at the snapshot from yesterday, I've got a question for the WB guys. Why are the 777 FO slots going senior to the 787 FO slots?
The 777 slots in the snapshot are going from 6000 seniority to 10,000.
The 787 slots go from 7800 to 11,700. So there's about an 1800 seniority shift, or two years seniority, mas o menos.
Any theories on this from some SFO wide body guys?
QOL is better? more efficient trips on the triple? Why the difference here?
