This thread has officially....

 

Harrisburg,
I meant that TWA didn't give you any per diem and you had to pay $800 a month for two months while in 727 Flight Engineer training. Also you didn't get paid till after you passed. I figured out that to get hired at TWA ,in 1994, would have cost me about $5000 out of my pocket. Back then 7th year F/O pay at TWA was $39/hour. That's right I said Seventh year pay! I turned down the job because It wasn't worth it. I was making way more flying in the Reserves. In 94 the only Airlines hiring were United, UPS, TWA and Southwest. The others had guys furloughed.

 

This looks like the regional section all the sudden...

And now back to our regularly scheduled programming.

 

cskafan123,

As you can see by those contributing to your thread with real information of how to get through first year pay, it’s doable. Any discussion of history is a reality check that 45k, while low by industry standards of today of first year pay, is still better than first year pay of years past even adjusted for inflation. And second year pay historically was double new hire pay. Now it’s quadrouple.

All airline pilots should read “Hard Landing”. I’ve read many books about airline history but that one stands out as a non fiction written by a Pulitzer Prize journalist.

UPS will severely frown on any entitlement mindset. I know that wasn’t the original intent of your post; however, recent history has shown this attitude won’t be tolerated and it did require discussion to those seeking employment here. I and other crew members are very generous and welcoming to new hires.

First year pay should not be part of 99% of Pilots decision of whether to come to UPS. And if someone is in that 1%, there’s something bigger going on in their lives.

Good luck!

 

Out of respect for the fact that we are on the same team, I’ll refrain from comment except to say I’m embarrassed to be associated with you.

 

If one was lucky enough to have upgraded out of the FE seat after 7 years.

 

That’s a refrain? Yes I think you slipped through the cracks. Trust me if that’s the case we are not on the same team.

 

Hey man, our EB gave us 1 simple-to-follow instruction: remain united. They weren’t talking about more circle jerks in 603 or Thursday night kumbaya sessions in the ASC, they were referring to situations like these which asks us to rise above personal, political, generational differences for a greater cause. You don’t appear to get that. I’d be careful judging others when you might be the weak link...

 

And if you’re going to keep this going at least have the foresight to use private messaging...

 

I have nothing to say to you in public or private.

Thanks for bringing nothing to the thread but stupidity. Please pick up your “hey man” unity participation medal as you exit.