UPS 2019 Hiring
#41
While I understand your frustration and agree that your perspective has some truth to it, if your sense of entitlement and mild narcissism came across in your application and/or job fair then that could be a very real reason you haven’t gotten a call. They like humility and folks who think (or convincingly present an image of) there is no better place than UPS. The, “look how good I am; better hire me before your competitors do,” attitude is worse than a dui. Not saying this applies to you but food for thought going forward....
Best of luck.
Best of luck.
#42
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The hours comparison was a setup for an idea I didn’t end up developing in the post - namely that I, and most in my new hire class for that matter, worked a lot AND had multiple extracurriculars beyond just line flying. And all that still didn’t get me a call from my #1 choice....
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#43
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I mentioned my union volunteering at a job fair to DT and he specifically told me "I would keep that to yourself from now on," Pilot Assistance Committee, Jumpseat Committee and Grievance Committee, FWIW. YMMV.
#46
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The Job fair is not an opportunity to learn about UPS, rather, it's UPS's opportunity to learn about you and see how much you've already know about the company and the job for which you are applying. Think of the Job fair as step one of the interview because many of them are current pilots that are volunteering their time to be there interviewing potential crewmembers. That's right: it's a volunteer activity! Then you take the Hogan, then you go to the SIM, then to the HR interview. You had better know something about the company before you go to a job fair.
Read this thread. Lots of good, recent info. Interviews, Classes and General Hiring 2018
Read this thread. Lots of good, recent info. Interviews, Classes and General Hiring 2018
#48
Carry on......
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Not one IPA Pilot is “volunteering” as you put it, in fact no line pilots are involved in job fairs or hiring. These are all Management types or (even worse) interns that have not one thing to do but give you some false idea they have something to do with the process. Be very aware that you are not taking to anyone that truly flies the line, and they are certainly not “volunteers”
Carry on......
Carry on......
There are FQMs there and HR. I haven't met interns, but that doesn't mean they aren't there - just that I haven't met them.
#50
Not one IPA Pilot is “volunteering” as you put it, in fact no line pilots are involved in job fairs or hiring. These are all Management types or (even worse) interns that have not one thing to do but give you some false idea they have something to do with the process. Be very aware that you are not taking to anyone that truly flies the line, and they are certainly not “volunteers”
Carry on......
Carry on......
I believe that's not quite true. One of my friends is a FO line pilot for UPS and goes to job fairs on his own time helping with the interviews at job fairs. I met two others through him that do the same. Volunteers, not being compensated from IPA or UPS... At least that's what my friend told me and the two others as well.
There are FQMs there and HR. I haven't met interns, but that doesn't mean they aren't there - just that I haven't met them.
There are FQMs there and HR. I haven't met interns, but that doesn't mean they aren't there - just that I haven't met them.
But if the union hasn't mentioned our involvement in the hiring process, I'd like to know why.
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