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Old 12-15-2018, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by FTv3 View Post
While I understand your frustration and agree that your perspective has some truth to it, if your sense of entitlement and mild narcissism came across in your application and/or job fair then that could be a very real reason you haven’t gotten a call. They like humility and folks who think (or convincingly present an image of) there is no better place than UPS. The, “look how good I am; better hire me before your competitors do,” attitude is worse than a dui. Not saying this applies to you but food for thought going forward....

Best of luck.
This. I also picked up on some of that in the prior post.
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Old 12-15-2018, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Swedish Blender View Post
I would say that is your opinion. 500 hours vs 800 hours per year? Pretty sure they don’t care since a lot of pilot at UPS fly less than 400 per year.

Like yours, just my opinion
Point was to suggest that if he has a cush job and plenty of free time from low hours flown per year then he has no excuse not to have extracurriculars on his resume (union work, volunteer in community, second job, graduate degree work,etc). That is if he is ambitious enough and determined to win his dream job. It isn’t my opinion that companies prefer high achieving individuals with varied interests and involvements. My post wasn’t very clear on that, I agree.

The hours comparison was a setup for an idea I didn’t end up developing in the post - namely that I, and most in my new hire class for that matter, worked a lot AND had multiple extracurriculars beyond just line flying. And all that still didn’t get me a call from my #1 choice....

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Old 12-15-2018, 11:43 AM
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All your other points aside, can anyone say if the interviewers/HR actually appreciate union time? I’m apprehensive to list union volunteering on a resume or mention it in a interview should I be lucky enough to get to that point...
I mentioned my union volunteering at a job fair to DT and he specifically told me "I would keep that to yourself from now on," Pilot Assistance Committee, Jumpseat Committee and Grievance Committee, FWIW. YMMV.
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Old 12-15-2018, 06:03 PM
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Airline HR in charge of hiring is the biggest disaster I've seen in 19 years of this industry.
Nothing says "hire me" like a public flaming of those who would be interviewing you. YIKES!
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Old 12-16-2018, 08:05 PM
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Any recommendations or lessons learned for the job fair?
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Old 12-18-2018, 03:38 AM
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Any recommendations or lessons learned for the job fair?
The Job fair is not an opportunity to learn about UPS, rather, it's UPS's opportunity to learn about you and see how much you've already know about the company and the job for which you are applying. Think of the Job fair as step one of the interview because many of them are current pilots that are volunteering their time to be there interviewing potential crewmembers. That's right: it's a volunteer activity! Then you take the Hogan, then you go to the SIM, then to the HR interview. You had better know something about the company before you go to a job fair.

Read this thread. Lots of good, recent info. Interviews, Classes and General Hiring 2018
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Old 12-18-2018, 06:22 AM
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Old 12-18-2018, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by iflyme View Post
many of them are current pilots that are volunteering their time to be there interviewing potential crewmembers. That's right: it's a volunteer activity!
Not one IPA Pilot is “volunteering” as you put it, in fact no line pilots are involved in job fairs or hiring. These are all Management types or (even worse) interns that have not one thing to do but give you some false idea they have something to do with the process. Be very aware that you are not taking to anyone that truly flies the line, and they are certainly not “volunteers”

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Old 12-18-2018, 12:28 PM
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Not one IPA Pilot is “volunteering” as you put it, in fact no line pilots are involved in job fairs or hiring. These are all Management types or (even worse) interns that have not one thing to do but give you some false idea they have something to do with the process. Be very aware that you are not taking to anyone that truly flies the line, and they are certainly not “volunteers”

Carry on......
I believe that's not quite true. One of my friends is a FO line pilot for UPS and goes to job fairs on his own time helping with the interviews at job fairs. I met two others through him that do the same. Volunteers, not being compensated from IPA or UPS... At least that's what my friend told me and the two others as well.
There are FQMs there and HR. I haven't met interns, but that doesn't mean they aren't there - just that I haven't met them.
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Originally Posted by Section Eight View Post
Not one IPA Pilot is “volunteering” as you put it, in fact no line pilots are involved in job fairs or hiring. These are all Management types or (even worse) interns that have not one thing to do but give you some false idea they have something to do with the process. Be very aware that you are not taking to anyone that truly flies the line, and they are certainly not “volunteers”

Carry on......
I thought that I was the only one that saw the BS in that post

I believe that's not quite true. One of my friends is a FO line pilot for UPS and goes to job fairs on his own time helping with the interviews at job fairs. I met two others through him that do the same. Volunteers, not being compensated from IPA or UPS... At least that's what my friend told me and the two others as well.
There are FQMs there and HR. I haven't met interns, but that doesn't mean they aren't there - just that I haven't met them.
So is he seriously helping in the interviews, making hiring decisidions, because that would be news for the IPA. Don't get me wrong, I don't doubt that some of our guys go to job fairs and help out ... what I doubt is that they have any say in the hiring process. If they do, good for them.

But if the union hasn't mentioned our involvement in the hiring process, I'd like to know why.
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