SDF has 50+ semi private rooms (cubicle plus curtain) then 3 floors of private sleep rooms. There are also 2 recliner rooms.

ANC = 6 semi privates+ a recliner room.

ONT = has a bunch of semi private rooms and a few privates but many of them are reserved by sort crews each night. Also has a recliner lounge room.

Wherever you’re based you’ll get a locker. If not SDF, you can buy one of those self-inflating camping mattress pads and a pillow and find a place to lay it out. Slap on an eye cover and some ear plugs and you’ll be able to squeeze out a nap in most places if you can’t get a bed. Keep in locker.

 

If it comes down to that, I think the better option might be the fatigue call.

We made some good strides in the 2016 contract wrt sleeprooms. But like many parts of our contract, these gains were very Louisville centric. As another poster mentioned, ANC lost its sleeprooms for the duration of COVID and nobody batted an eye. Louisville maintained all of their sleeprooms during the same period. UPS argues that one of the reasons we shouldn't have the same fatigue protections as our passenger carrying brethren is that we can get naps during the duty period. If this isn't possible due to lack of appropriate sleeping facilities, we should be holding their feet to the fire.

 

You don’t sit a sort as an operating crewmember in ANC.

Guess thats why there isn’t a contract provision for sleep rooms in ANC.

 

FDX guy here with a CJO at Brown. I’m making the jump, but my main concern is the apparent lack of schedule flexibility vs. FDX. At FDX we can drop to zero. I understand there is no mechanism to drop at UPS? How successful can you be with trip trading to give away a trip here and there to improve QOL, especially as a commuter? Given the state of both companies, I am grateful to be coming on board. Just figured I would ask the group about my one concern.

 

U can advertise your trip to the pilot group but it will only drop if someone picks it up...but u can do that to zero if you like.

 

You can also trade your trips with trips that are in open time on the UPS portal. The more open time the more options you have to trade.

Welcome aboard! I think you'll enjoy being a member of the IPA.

 

I like it here more than most (or at least more than most who post on the internet). That said, I live in base and am fairly flexible with my time. If you want to work less (even at the cost of pay) and have a lot of schedule flexibility...I think you are likely to be disappointed. *That* said, I'd still rather be here than FedEx, assuming you're not giving up more than say 3 years of seniority. Say goodbye to edible catering and booshie commercial deadheads, but say hello to a Union which isn't riven with internal dissent, and an employer which, whatever its other faults, generally doesn't make any catastprophic mistakes. If you take the bad with the good and leave work behind you when you go home, I think you're likely to be happy here. And welcome.

 

I was a commuter until last year and I was pretty successful with dropping trips via the trip board. It helped when there weren’t many trips in open time.

Lessons I learned: Bid base trip lines as shorter 1-3 day trips are pretty easy to drop, week-long are next to impossible. A 1-3 day trip with a CML on the front end or back end or both was almost a guarantee drop. After having very little success with Line Improvement Trip Trading, I decided it wasn’t worth the effort so I quit trying. Sometimes I’d only throw a couple of strategic trips on the board in order to eliminate a day or two sit in the crashpad between trips. Sometimes I’d throw my whole schedule on the board and just wait until about half or so would get picked up and then pull the remaining off to maintain my 35 or whatever it is hours and prevent a penalty on my benefits. I wasn’t chasing dollars, so I was very regularly dropping down to about 40 hrs/month. Spent so much time on the lake in my boat I actually got sick of it and my wife got tired of me hanging around the house all the time 😂

 

^^^This! You can also drop turns on trip board. Anything short usually goes fairly easily.

 

Great information in this thread! I couldn't find anything about commuting from Houston. Does anyone have any gouge on that? Also, is flying for UPS better than flying for say United or SWA in houston if you have to commute for UPS?

Thanks!