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05-03-2022 | 12:10 PM

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BoilerUP

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Junior CPT on Mock 1 was Apr’17 DOH.

05-03-2022 | 12:59 PM

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Junior CPT on Mock 1 was Apr’17 DOH.

When is Mock 2 coming out?

05-03-2022 | 02:45 PM

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When is Mock 2 coming out?

Likely by the end of the week.

05-03-2022 | 02:53 PM

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Currently Mar ‘17… guessing it will end at Feb or Mar ‘17

05-03-2022 | 06:22 PM

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Junior CPT on Mock 1 was Apr’17 DOH.

I hear that guy is pretty cool! 😉

05-04-2022 | 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by flyguy23

Pretty sure the last bid went into 2017. The first mock went well into 2017 on this bid. No where close to a 3 year upgrade and I’d be shocked if it ever did.

Exactly. 3 year upgrade here not gonna happen. If we had a B scale like Fedex maybe, but with a single pay scale I don’t see it happening. Plus, with our schedules being so bad, there is not much difference between 100% and 75% fleet/seat, so less people bypassing.

05-04-2022 | 04:40 AM

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For the last 8 years, the junior CPT award has run about 65% at time of bid award give or take 5%, with occasional fliers a bit more or less senior.

This will likely be in the same ballpark.

05-04-2022 | 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by tnkrdrvr

Fedex is an airline doing a mediocre job with its trucking division. We are a trucking company doing a mediocre job it’s airline division. Their airline maintenance is run accordingly as is ours. Often that means an MD gets stuck due to the lack of spares at international gateways. I’m not complaining, I make a lot of money off that error.

I have to respond to this. Sorry tnkdrvr bu our truck margins are higher than our Express margin and is growing fast enough to give UPS worry. Not bad for an airline.

05-04-2022 | 06:54 AM

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I have to respond to this. Sorry tnkdrvr bu our truck margins are higher than our Express margin and is growing fast enough to give UPS worry. Not bad for an airline.

Its not bad for an airline, but Wall Street isn’t convinced for whatever reason. FedEx has been struggling to match UPS profitability for decades. It will be interesting to see how you guys change going forward as your C suite changes.

05-04-2022 | 11:25 AM

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I have to respond to this. Sorry tnkdrvr bu our truck margins are higher than our Express margin and is growing fast enough to give UPS worry. Not bad for an airline.

If you read the financial reports, Ground margins at Fedex have been running around 8%, while 13% or so for UPS. 5% difference doesn’t seem like much, but this is the main reason Fedex is being punished in the stock market, this and inability to control costs.