Vacancy Bid 24-101
#51
I'm about 75% SDF 74 F/O, and the flying is surprisingly gentlemanly even at relatively poor seniority. Lot of ANC refugee commuters, so if you're local and don't mind RSV or VTOs with domestic turns on them, you can do pretty well. Z would no doubt be slightly better in that regard due to slightly improved seniority, but big training event plus losing that wonderful galley! Also I hear they sometimes fly more than two legs on that slaveship...
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I'm about 75% SDF 74 F/O, and the flying is surprisingly gentlemanly even at relatively poor seniority. Lot of ANC refugee commuters, so if you're local and don't mind RSV or VTOs with domestic turns on them, you can do pretty well. Z would no doubt be slightly better in that regard due to slightly improved seniority, but big training event plus losing that wonderful galley! Also I hear they sometimes fly more than two legs on that slaveship...
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It's all relative. You're going to get those on almost any line with the optimizer in full swing. Point was intended to be that low seniority 74 flying in SDF isn't all that much different from mid seniority 74 flying in ANC, minus a bunch of commutes but also minus some schedule control
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Z one sits hard seat time around 25-40 hours per month and gets 80 hours plus credit. 747 one sits hard seat time around 70 hours and gets 75 hours credit. Plus 24 hour layovers back to back, etc. Rest Killer. Z has 14 to 100 hour layovers.
#56
hmmm….so why is 74 so senior in the left seat?
#58
The 747-8 significantly changed the international network, leading to 747 trips being constructed differently than they were even in 2016/2017 with the 400. More longer legs mean the tails rotate back to ANC (or SDF) more frequently, allowing for a crew change and construction of shorter trips which are more efficient for the Company.
SDFZ operates completely differently within the international network than the Whale, and obviously the 767 doesn't have those kinds of legs to rotate crews as frequently.
If some hypothetical eventual new airframe does "one leg and done", it'll go senior because of 1. new shiny and 2. schedules and early mass displacements for training.
I hope its an A350F though, if only so the Boeing people bid it with gritted teeth
SDFZ operates completely differently within the international network than the Whale, and obviously the 767 doesn't have those kinds of legs to rotate crews as frequently.
If some hypothetical eventual new airframe does "one leg and done", it'll go senior because of 1. new shiny and 2. schedules and early mass displacements for training.
I hope its an A350F though, if only so the Boeing people bid it with gritted teeth
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The 747-8 significantly changed the international network, leading to 747 trips being constructed differently than they were even in 2016/2017 with the 400. More longer legs mean the tails rotate back to ANC (or SDF) more frequently, allowing for a crew change and construction of shorter trips which are more efficient for the Company.
SDFZ operates completely differently within the international network than the Whale, and obviously the 767 doesn't have those kinds of legs to rotate crews as frequently.
If some hypothetical eventual new airframe does "one leg and done", it'll go senior because of 1. new shiny and 2. schedules and early mass displacements for training.
I hope its an A350F though, if only so the Boeing people bid it with gritted teeth
SDFZ operates completely differently within the international network than the Whale, and obviously the 767 doesn't have those kinds of legs to rotate crews as frequently.
If some hypothetical eventual new airframe does "one leg and done", it'll go senior because of 1. new shiny and 2. schedules and early mass displacements for training.
I hope its an A350F though, if only so the Boeing people bid it with gritted teeth
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