UPS Captain Arrested in FL
08-01-2016, 02:10 PM
#21
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I'd be very surprised if this doesn't at least get him a visit with the company shrink. It's their right and if they don't, and there is a future workplace violence issue, someone else will be the largest shareholder of ups... The victim's family.
08-02-2016, 04:59 AM
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Surprised no one has wondered whether he was just coming off of a trip.
Sleep deprivation can make idiots of us all. Certainly doesn't excuse his actions, as reported, but can make them a bit more understandable.
And a warning for all of us freightdawgs who fly through the night to be aware our judgment might just be a tad impaired thanks to the sleep deprivation many of us experience
Sleep deprivation can make idiots of us all. Certainly doesn't excuse his actions, as reported, but can make them a bit more understandable.
And a warning for all of us freightdawgs who fly through the night to be aware our judgment might just be a tad impaired thanks to the sleep deprivation many of us experience
08-02-2016, 05:09 AM
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When you make 300k a year, there is never a rush to get anywhere. The party shows up when you get there, and not a moment before...
One by-product of retiring from the ANG was I realized I never had to be anywhere again at a certain time, except for the flight from the local airport commuting in to Memphis. The day I realized I never again had to worry about making a brief time in my hometown made going anywhere a breeze. I noticed I became the slowest driver in the house--never in a rush--always relaxed--and it not only made me safer but let me enjoy my day more too.
Adopt the attitude you are too important to rush. If others rush in front of you, laugh at their stress, and wish them well. Play your favorite CD or enjoy satellite radio, and think about those poor schumucks who get to do this drive twice a day. If you are going to Home Depot or out to lunch to meet your wife, there is no rush. Let the people with day jobs rush. Goes back to the whole "gets weekends off" mindset....I LIKED working weekends and having less folks on the lake, at the beach, or in line at Home Depot. Pilots should not be the ones stressed on the roads...
But yeah...like Kronan says...I can be a weird, grumpy MF when chronically tired. I stopped rushing home after trips for that very reason, and would take an extra 1/2 to rest and recover again before coming home. Family liked me better, and amazingly enough I found them much less irritating as well...
One by-product of retiring from the ANG was I realized I never had to be anywhere again at a certain time, except for the flight from the local airport commuting in to Memphis. The day I realized I never again had to worry about making a brief time in my hometown made going anywhere a breeze. I noticed I became the slowest driver in the house--never in a rush--always relaxed--and it not only made me safer but let me enjoy my day more too.
Adopt the attitude you are too important to rush. If others rush in front of you, laugh at their stress, and wish them well. Play your favorite CD or enjoy satellite radio, and think about those poor schumucks who get to do this drive twice a day. If you are going to Home Depot or out to lunch to meet your wife, there is no rush. Let the people with day jobs rush. Goes back to the whole "gets weekends off" mindset....I LIKED working weekends and having less folks on the lake, at the beach, or in line at Home Depot. Pilots should not be the ones stressed on the roads...
But yeah...like Kronan says...I can be a weird, grumpy MF when chronically tired. I stopped rushing home after trips for that very reason, and would take an extra 1/2 to rest and recover again before coming home. Family liked me better, and amazingly enough I found them much less irritating as well...
08-02-2016, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by kronan
Surprised no one has wondered whether he was just coming off of a trip.
Sleep deprivation can make idiots of us all. Certainly doesn't excuse his actions, as reported, but can make them a bit more understandable.
And a warning for all of us freightdawgs who fly through the night to be aware our judgment might just be a tad impaired thanks to the sleep deprivation many of us experience
Sleep deprivation can make idiots of us all. Certainly doesn't excuse his actions, as reported, but can make them a bit more understandable.
And a warning for all of us freightdawgs who fly through the night to be aware our judgment might just be a tad impaired thanks to the sleep deprivation many of us experience
08-02-2016, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Albief15
When you make 300k a year, there is never a rush to get anywhere. The party shows up when you get there, and not a moment before...
One by-product of retiring from the ANG was I realized I never had to be anywhere again at a certain time, except for the flight from the local airport commuting in to Memphis. The day I realized I never again had to worry about making a brief time in my hometown made going anywhere a breeze. I noticed I became the slowest driver in the house--never in a rush--always relaxed--and it not only made me safer but let me enjoy my day more too.
Adopt the attitude you are too important to rush. If others rush in front of you, laugh at their stress, and wish them well. Play your favorite CD or enjoy satellite radio, and think about those poor schumucks who get to do this drive twice a day. If you are going to Home Depot or out to lunch to meet your wife, there is no rush. Let the people with day jobs rush. Goes back to the whole "gets weekends off" mindset....I LIKED working weekends and having less folks on the lake, at the beach, or in line at Home Depot. Pilots should not be the ones stressed on the roads...
But yeah...like Kronan says...I can be a weird, grumpy MF when chronically tired. I stopped rushing home after trips for that very reason, and would take an extra 1/2 to rest and recover again before coming home. Family liked me better, and amazingly enough I found them much less irritating as well...
One by-product of retiring from the ANG was I realized I never had to be anywhere again at a certain time, except for the flight from the local airport commuting in to Memphis. The day I realized I never again had to worry about making a brief time in my hometown made going anywhere a breeze. I noticed I became the slowest driver in the house--never in a rush--always relaxed--and it not only made me safer but let me enjoy my day more too.
Adopt the attitude you are too important to rush. If others rush in front of you, laugh at their stress, and wish them well. Play your favorite CD or enjoy satellite radio, and think about those poor schumucks who get to do this drive twice a day. If you are going to Home Depot or out to lunch to meet your wife, there is no rush. Let the people with day jobs rush. Goes back to the whole "gets weekends off" mindset....I LIKED working weekends and having less folks on the lake, at the beach, or in line at Home Depot. Pilots should not be the ones stressed on the roads...
But yeah...like Kronan says...I can be a weird, grumpy MF when chronically tired. I stopped rushing home after trips for that very reason, and would take an extra 1/2 to rest and recover again before coming home. Family liked me better, and amazingly enough I found them much less irritating as well...
08-02-2016, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetjok
Archie,
I believe you're quite mistaken. If you take a look at the definition of the offense he's been charged with, in the state of Florida, you see that doing what he is supposed to have done, is not a misdemeanor, but an aggravated assault, and a felony. As well, if you read the definition, all it takes is for the "victim" to feel threatened, for the charge to apply. Then there's the actual video of the event, which I'd think would be hard to deny. So the question is, if he's found guilty of aggravated assault, does UPS continue to employ a felon?
I believe you're quite mistaken. If you take a look at the definition of the offense he's been charged with, in the state of Florida, you see that doing what he is supposed to have done, is not a misdemeanor, but an aggravated assault, and a felony. As well, if you read the definition, all it takes is for the "victim" to feel threatened, for the charge to apply. Then there's the actual video of the event, which I'd think would be hard to deny. So the question is, if he's found guilty of aggravated assault, does UPS continue to employ a felon?
As for your question concerning whether UPS would employ a convicted felon as a pilot...I don't think that's possible with the
TSA security requirements we currently have for pilots. I'm almost positive that a felony conviction is an automatic disqualification for employment as a pilot.
08-11-2016, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by shroomwell
The FAA will either find an actual reason, or manufacture a reason, to revoke the guy's certificates. Watch.
I think you've totally fallen for the "FAA dark magic" perception. There is no ATP renewal and I don't think anyone in the FAA cares what someone does that doesn't involve flying. I know of people that are in jail that still hold FAA certificates...because there's no basis for revoking them.
While depending on the conviction, this could be grounds to deny an ATP, the guy already has an ATP, so that's nothing that the FAA would be concerned about. Outside of medical, I can't think of anyone that would care.
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