Atlas Air Hiring
01-15-2014, 03:14 PM
#7551
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Joined APC: Jan 2011
Posts: 154
Originally Posted by 744driver
Great post...
Something to consider for those going to Miami from the Eastern part of the country...it might be handy to have a car while you are there. The hotel allows free parking for Atlas pilots/students.
Several disclaimers...
1. Park in the hotel parking lot at your own risk...if your car is nice, leave it at home. If it is like mine (at least the airport commute car is), feel free to take it to Miami.
2. Having a car is a nice distraction from the routine of the training center, the hotel, etc...but that distraction has caused disruption for some, as the night life in Miami is world-class!!
Good luck to all...
Something to consider for those going to Miami from the Eastern part of the country...it might be handy to have a car while you are there. The hotel allows free parking for Atlas pilots/students.
Several disclaimers...
1. Park in the hotel parking lot at your own risk...if your car is nice, leave it at home. If it is like mine (at least the airport commute car is), feel free to take it to Miami.
2. Having a car is a nice distraction from the routine of the training center, the hotel, etc...but that distraction has caused disruption for some, as the night life in Miami is world-class!!
Good luck to all...
01-15-2014, 03:23 PM
#7552
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Joined APC: Jul 2012
Position: MD-11
Posts: 245
Definitely drive or rent a car
Originally Posted by TimmyR
What he said. I drove from the St Louis area and it was more than worth it. YMMV (literally I suppose.)
The company will pay for you to drive there and back, up to the cost of an airline ticket. Having a car definitely helped when going back and forth to the training center at odd hours, lunch while in ground school, grocery store, dinner in coral gables, Miami beach, wake boarding in lauderdale, Marlins games, stocking up for the grill, movie theater/mall, etc.
We also had 2 folks who rented a car together. There's a rental place in the Marriott. As I recall, they said it wasn't very expensive when shared between the two of them.
01-15-2014, 04:02 PM
#7553
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Joined APC: Nov 2008
Position: Knuckle-dragging line pilot
Posts: 943
Originally Posted by KYTBRD
We had 4 cars which we shared.
The company will pay for you to drive there and back, up to the cost of an airline ticket. Having a car definitely helped when going back and forth to the training center at odd hours, lunch while in ground school, grocery store, dinner in coral gables, Miami beach, wake boarding in lauderdale, Marlins games, stocking up for the grill, movie theater/mall, etc.
We also had 2 folks who rented a car together. There's a rental place in the Marriott. As I recall, they said it wasn't very expensive when shared between the two of them.
The company will pay for you to drive there and back, up to the cost of an airline ticket. Having a car definitely helped when going back and forth to the training center at odd hours, lunch while in ground school, grocery store, dinner in coral gables, Miami beach, wake boarding in lauderdale, Marlins games, stocking up for the grill, movie theater/mall, etc.
We also had 2 folks who rented a car together. There's a rental place in the Marriott. As I recall, they said it wasn't very expensive when shared between the two of them.
Company will pay you mileage for the drive home, not the drive down, unless something's changed.
I often rent from the cheap car rental places when I come in for ground school. Never had a problem and probably cheaper than the Marriott.
01-15-2014, 05:12 PM
#7555
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: B744/8 CA at Atlas
Posts: 83
Originally Posted by captainv
Ideally, at least one guy in each sim pairing has a car. Not having wheels severely limits your food choices and you'll spend a lot of extra time getting to the sim at zero dark thirty.
Company will pay you mileage for the drive home, not the drive down, unless something's changed.
I often rent from the cheap car rental places when I come in for ground school. Never had a problem and probably cheaper than the Marriott.
Company will pay you mileage for the drive home, not the drive down, unless something's changed.
I often rent from the cheap car rental places when I come in for ground school. Never had a problem and probably cheaper than the Marriott.
Our class was lucky, half of us drove down and it makes a huge difference during the 9 or 10 weeks in Miami.
01-15-2014, 05:34 PM
#7556
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Joined APC: May 2010
Position: B767 CA
Posts: 1,100
My sim partner and I rented a car from the Enterprise right across from the training center during the six weeks in Miami for the 767 Captain's course...was about $300 for each of us (including gas, etc).
01-15-2014, 08:05 PM
#7557
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Joined APC: Apr 2011
Position: sandwich
Posts: 96
For the benefit of the guys heading down to Miami here's a rough outline of the training footprint. Usual disclaimers apply, this was my schedule, yours may be different, everything subject to change, etc.
First 3 weeks are classroom;
-Basic Indoc - 5 days
-CRM - 1 day
day off
-Security class - 1 day
-CBT - 5 days (available online so can be done in hotel or classroom, you're on your own)
2 days off
-CBT - 5 days (systems test last day)
2 days off
Next 2 weeks sim prep;
-SIT - 2 days (Systems Integration Training aka paper tiger with an instructor)
-ITG - 3 days (Intro to Glass - PC based FMS simulator)
-FBS - 5 days (Fixed Base Simulator aka computerized paper tiger)
2 days off
-Oral Prep - 1 day (done as a class with instructors cold calling oral type questions, they must recommend you for the oral)
-Oral Exam - 1 day
2 days off
Next 2 weeks of sims;
-FFS - 7 sessions
2 days off
-FFS - Pre check (must be recommended to take the ride)
-FFS - Type Ride
3 days off
Next is a week of class and sims;
- LQT - 2 days (Line Qualification Training - classroom instruction on reading flight plans, plotting, etc)
- CATII/III qualification - 1 day
- LOFT - 1 day
- FBS - 2 days (-8 differences training in 'glass trainer')
So you're looking at a solid 9 weeks in Miami. None of us that live further than a couple of hours away went home at all during training. Most had their spouses come down at some point during sim training where they had a couple days off strung together. Hope that helps, have fun
First 3 weeks are classroom;
-Basic Indoc - 5 days
-CRM - 1 day
day off
-Security class - 1 day
-CBT - 5 days (available online so can be done in hotel or classroom, you're on your own)
2 days off
-CBT - 5 days (systems test last day)
2 days off
Next 2 weeks sim prep;
-SIT - 2 days (Systems Integration Training aka paper tiger with an instructor)
-ITG - 3 days (Intro to Glass - PC based FMS simulator)
-FBS - 5 days (Fixed Base Simulator aka computerized paper tiger)
2 days off
-Oral Prep - 1 day (done as a class with instructors cold calling oral type questions, they must recommend you for the oral)
-Oral Exam - 1 day
2 days off
Next 2 weeks of sims;
-FFS - 7 sessions
2 days off
-FFS - Pre check (must be recommended to take the ride)
-FFS - Type Ride
3 days off
Next is a week of class and sims;
- LQT - 2 days (Line Qualification Training - classroom instruction on reading flight plans, plotting, etc)
- CATII/III qualification - 1 day
- LOFT - 1 day
- FBS - 2 days (-8 differences training in 'glass trainer')
So you're looking at a solid 9 weeks in Miami. None of us that live further than a couple of hours away went home at all during training. Most had their spouses come down at some point during sim training where they had a couple days off strung together. Hope that helps, have fun
01-15-2014, 10:18 PM
#7558
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Joined APC: Nov 2011
Posts: 26
Originally Posted by 744driver
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tdubs
Slightly off topic: Anyone know how often the update the seniority list?
Congrats new peeps.
How about going to the CBA for an answer?
Hint: Section 22
Originally Posted by Tdubs
Slightly off topic: Anyone know how often the update the seniority list?
Congrats new peeps.
How about going to the CBA for an answer?
Hint: Section 22
01-15-2014, 10:26 PM
#7559
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Joined APC: Apr 2013
Position: 744 Capt
Posts: 170
Originally Posted by Nate2046
For the benefit of the guys heading down to Miami here's a rough outline of the training footprint. Usual disclaimers apply, this was my schedule, yours may be different, everything subject to change, etc.
First 3 weeks are classroom;
-Basic Indoc - 5 days
-CRM - 1 day
day off
-Security class - 1 day
-CBT - 5 days (available online so can be done in hotel or classroom, you're on your own)
2 days off
-CBT - 5 days (systems test last day)
2 days off
Next 2 weeks sim prep;
-SIT - 2 days (Systems Integration Training aka paper tiger with an instructor)
-ITG - 3 days (Intro to Glass - PC based FMS simulator)
-FBS - 5 days (Fixed Base Simulator aka computerized paper tiger)
2 days off
-Oral Prep - 1 day (done as a class with instructors cold calling oral type questions, they must recommend you for the oral)
-Oral Exam - 1 day
2 days off
Next 2 weeks of sims;
-FFS - 7 sessions
2 days off
-FFS - Pre check (must be recommended to take the ride)
-FFS - Type Ride
3 days off
Next is a week of class and sims;
- LQT - 2 days (Line Qualification Training - classroom instruction on reading flight plans, plotting, etc)
- CATII/III qualification - 1 day
- LOFT - 1 day
- FBS - 2 days (-8 differences training in 'glass trainer')
So you're looking at a solid 9 weeks in Miami. None of us that live further than a couple of hours away went home at all during training. Most had their spouses come down at some point during sim training where they had a couple days off strung together. Hope that helps, have fun
First 3 weeks are classroom;
-Basic Indoc - 5 days
-CRM - 1 day
day off
-Security class - 1 day
-CBT - 5 days (available online so can be done in hotel or classroom, you're on your own)
2 days off
-CBT - 5 days (systems test last day)
2 days off
Next 2 weeks sim prep;
-SIT - 2 days (Systems Integration Training aka paper tiger with an instructor)
-ITG - 3 days (Intro to Glass - PC based FMS simulator)
-FBS - 5 days (Fixed Base Simulator aka computerized paper tiger)
2 days off
-Oral Prep - 1 day (done as a class with instructors cold calling oral type questions, they must recommend you for the oral)
-Oral Exam - 1 day
2 days off
Next 2 weeks of sims;
-FFS - 7 sessions
2 days off
-FFS - Pre check (must be recommended to take the ride)
-FFS - Type Ride
3 days off
Next is a week of class and sims;
- LQT - 2 days (Line Qualification Training - classroom instruction on reading flight plans, plotting, etc)
- CATII/III qualification - 1 day
- LOFT - 1 day
- FBS - 2 days (-8 differences training in 'glass trainer')
So you're looking at a solid 9 weeks in Miami. None of us that live further than a couple of hours away went home at all during training. Most had their spouses come down at some point during sim training where they had a couple days off strung together. Hope that helps, have fun
- did the oral take a full day?
- is there an oral guide or gouge out there on the questions which are fair game.
- how was the systems test? Tough or relatively straight forward after 2 weeks of CBTs?
- are there any instructors around to answer questions while you do the CBTs?
- was there much reading to do each night?
Thanks!
01-15-2014, 10:44 PM
#7560
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Joined APC: Apr 2011
Position: sandwich
Posts: 96
Originally Posted by rmr1992
Awesome rundown of the sked, tyvm. Couple of questions:
- did the oral take a full day?
No, thank god. Scheduled for 3 hours and used most but not all of that time.
- is there an oral guide or gouge out there on the questions which are fair game.
You are going to get so much gouge you won't be able to process it all. There is a 'bank' of questions that the Check Airman are supposed to be drawing from but your mileage may vary on that. In any case, you will be very well prepped.
- how was the systems test? Tough or relatively straight forward after 2 weeks of CBTs?
Systems test was very straightforward, again you will be very well prepped if you put in the study time.
- are there any instructors around to answer questions while you do the CBTs?
If you decide to go over to the training center during normal hours there are always instructors around who can help.
- was there much reading to do each night?
Kind of up to you, but I would definitely recommend reading everything in the manuals that was covered in the CBTs to strengthen your knowledge. You'll also have to do some reading to prep for the sims, of course.
Thanks!
- did the oral take a full day?
No, thank god. Scheduled for 3 hours and used most but not all of that time.
- is there an oral guide or gouge out there on the questions which are fair game.
You are going to get so much gouge you won't be able to process it all. There is a 'bank' of questions that the Check Airman are supposed to be drawing from but your mileage may vary on that. In any case, you will be very well prepped.
- how was the systems test? Tough or relatively straight forward after 2 weeks of CBTs?
Systems test was very straightforward, again you will be very well prepped if you put in the study time.
- are there any instructors around to answer questions while you do the CBTs?
If you decide to go over to the training center during normal hours there are always instructors around who can help.
- was there much reading to do each night?
Kind of up to you, but I would definitely recommend reading everything in the manuals that was covered in the CBTs to strengthen your knowledge. You'll also have to do some reading to prep for the sims, of course.
Thanks!
........................
Oh, and I should amend that part about the CBTs a little bit. You do accomplish that on your own, but there is also some scheduled time in the classroom with your systems instructor to cover questions during that two week stretch.
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