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Old 01-15-2014 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 744driver
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Slightly off topic: Anyone know how often the update the seniority list?

Congrats new peeps.




How about going to the CBA for an answer?

Hint: Section 22
Thanks for the hint. Still new to this world and not sure where everything is located, even after I may have read it once or twice.
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Old 01-15-2014 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Nate2046
For the benefit of the guys heading down to Miami here's a rough outline of the training footprint. Usual disclaimers apply, this was my schedule, yours may be different, everything subject to change, etc.


First 3 weeks are classroom;
-Basic Indoc - 5 days
-CRM - 1 day
day off
-Security class - 1 day
-CBT - 5 days (available online so can be done in hotel or classroom, you're on your own)
2 days off
-CBT - 5 days (systems test last day)
2 days off

Next 2 weeks sim prep;
-SIT - 2 days (Systems Integration Training aka paper tiger with an instructor)
-ITG - 3 days (Intro to Glass - PC based FMS simulator)
-FBS - 5 days (Fixed Base Simulator aka computerized paper tiger)

2 days off

-Oral Prep - 1 day (done as a class with instructors cold calling oral type questions, they must recommend you for the oral)
-Oral Exam - 1 day

2 days off

Next 2 weeks of sims;
-FFS - 7 sessions
2 days off
-FFS - Pre check (must be recommended to take the ride)
-FFS - Type Ride

3 days off

Next is a week of class and sims;
- LQT - 2 days (Line Qualification Training - classroom instruction on reading flight plans, plotting, etc)
- CATII/III qualification - 1 day
- LOFT - 1 day
- FBS - 2 days (-8 differences training in 'glass trainer')

So you're looking at a solid 9 weeks in Miami. None of us that live further than a couple of hours away went home at all during training. Most had their spouses come down at some point during sim training where they had a couple days off strung together. Hope that helps, have fun
Awesome rundown of the sked, tyvm. Couple of questions:
- did the oral take a full day?
- is there an oral guide or gouge out there on the questions which are fair game.
- how was the systems test? Tough or relatively straight forward after 2 weeks of CBTs?
- are there any instructors around to answer questions while you do the CBTs?
- was there much reading to do each night?

Thanks!
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Old 01-15-2014 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by rmr1992
Awesome rundown of the sked, tyvm. Couple of questions:

- did the oral take a full day?
No, thank god. Scheduled for 3 hours and used most but not all of that time.

- is there an oral guide or gouge out there on the questions which are fair game.
You are going to get so much gouge you won't be able to process it all. There is a 'bank' of questions that the Check Airman are supposed to be drawing from but your mileage may vary on that. In any case, you will be very well prepped.

- how was the systems test? Tough or relatively straight forward after 2 weeks of CBTs?
Systems test was very straightforward, again you will be very well prepped if you put in the study time.

- are there any instructors around to answer questions while you do the CBTs?
If you decide to go over to the training center during normal hours there are always instructors around who can help.

- was there much reading to do each night?
Kind of up to you, but I would definitely recommend reading everything in the manuals that was covered in the CBTs to strengthen your knowledge. You'll also have to do some reading to prep for the sims, of course.

Thanks!
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Oh, and I should amend that part about the CBTs a little bit. You do accomplish that on your own, but there is also some scheduled time in the classroom with your systems instructor to cover questions during that two week stretch.
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Old 01-16-2014 | 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by rmr1992
Awesome rundown of the sked, tyvm. Couple of questions:
- did the oral take a full day?
- is there an oral guide or gouge out there on the questions which are fair game.
- how was the systems test? Tough or relatively straight forward after 2 weeks of CBTs?
- are there any instructors around to answer questions while you do the CBTs?
- was there much reading to do each night?

Thanks!
Also, per normal, the initial course is long. Worse yet, it feels twice as long going through it.

Keep the horse in front of the cart. Pace yourself and set up a plan. Group study on the porch during the academic portion provides much needed social interaction and a chance to meet folks down for recurrent, or layovers, and provide info as well as get to meet your new co-workers.

Heck maybe people that have helped gouge up the thread might swing by.

Welcome. And remember "Here at Atlas consistency is important. We make sure to fly no freight until it's late!"
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Old 01-16-2014 | 01:14 AM
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They give nice cockpit panel picture/posters...go to Office Depot and do a 130-150% enlargement and post them on the walls...and start chair-flying. Does wonders for flows...

Two other ideas...
1. Take pictures of slides that you feel are important, vs taking massive amounts of notes.
2. Make voice recordings of the flows, limitations, and memory items, etc...comes in handy during chair flying.

Good luck.
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Old 01-16-2014 | 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by portfo
Who administers Atlas' 401k? Any comments/opinions on the provided options? Thank you.
Fidelity.

There is the usual collection of mutual funds. However there is also a brokerage link option that gives you a full brokerage account within the 401k, so you can hold stocks, bonds, ETFs, almost any mutual fund and use conservative options strategies.
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Old 01-16-2014 | 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 744driver
They give nice cockpit panel picture/posters...go to Office Depot and do a 130-150% enlargement and post them on the walls...and start chair-flying. Does wonders for flows...

Good luck.
I went to office depot and got a stick of the tacky material which allows you to post pictures on the wall. Most of us modified our rooms by taking down room pictures and posting the cockpit panels on the wall for flow prep.

For lunch I recommend Cafe and Liquors (a Cuban food restaurant). Down the street about a mile from the training center. You pass it on the way from the hotel to the center.

There is a good Publix grocery store about 5 minutes away (by car).


Gouge: you will get more than you need. For those who feel naked without it when starting class, don't worry. Relax and it will find you. There will be more help than you need.
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Old 01-16-2014 | 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by KYTBRD
I went to office depot and got a stick of the tacky material which allows you to post pictures on the wall. Most of us modified our rooms by taking down room pictures and posting the cockpit panels on the wall for flow prep.

For lunch I recommend Cafe and Liquors (a Cuban food restaurant). Down the street about a mile from the training center. You pass it on the way from the hotel to the center.

There is a good Publix grocery store about 5 minutes away (by car).


Gouge: you will get more than you need. For those who feel naked without it when starting class, don't worry. Relax and it will find you. There will be more help than you need.
Good sandwiches and cuban fare to include Cuban coffee () at the Downstairs across the street (convenience store). Suvi is good Thai next door (also across the street).
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Old 01-16-2014 | 04:06 AM
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They told us what the monthly pay was during training on the phone calls recently. HR told me $1,600. I seem to remember hearing something about a per diem as well. Is there a per diem while at the hotel, or is the $1,600 supposed to cover food and such?
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Old 01-16-2014 | 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Sirecks
They told us what the monthly pay was during training on the phone calls recently. HR told me $1,600. I seem to remember hearing something about a per diem as well. Is there a per diem while at the hotel, or is the $1,600 supposed to cover food and such?
Yup - per diem.
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