skybolt

And "trip averaging" is still there. It's just distributed over everything.

Lemonade

Seniority based DOT is still there. It's just resorted by a Spikeyhair 4G enabled iPad.

Lemonade

Our profit sharing is there. We just won't see it till we get stapled to the bottom of the SWA seniority list.

Sailor

I was wondering why SW cancelled every flt today TO and OUT of FLL. Xwnd limits?

Orbit

Lemonade If you get stapled that will be because your union tried to strong arm Gary Kelly. Ask a trannie how thats working for him/her.

Lemonade

Those AirTran guys did the right thing by voting down the first SLI. They were simply out maneuvered and improperly counseled by ALPA. I feel sorry for them.

captscott26

Huh??? That statement contradicts itself. Also, they didn't vote down anything, the MEC rejected it without sending it out for a vote(my understanding). They certainly didn't end up with anything better, so I'm not sure how you could say they did the right thing by turning down the first offer. I have no dog in that fight, just an outsiders opinion.

Lemonade

Huh??? What are you saying. The MEC did indeed vote to reject the first SLI. That is how our MEC does it right? We too have a separation between committee and MEC, don't we?

Orbit

What are you guys talking about? Dont your committees work for your MEC? The tranny merg comm worked for the tranny MEC and they did not choose wisely. Don't try to strong arm Gary Kelly.

gatorbird

Gee Lemonade, from your bitter remarks regarding the CBA it would appear that you're not happy with what you're working under. You did have a chance to review it before accepting a position with the airline right? I mean, that would be irresponsible on your part to blindly accept a position with a company and not understand the conditions of your employment.

Those of us here before the current CBA have an ownership to this contract and are well within our rights to have beef with it. For me, I came in under the last CBA knowing it's goods/bads/uglies and never felt I had a right to complain about it; I was dealing with a known quantity when i started and could only concern myself with what I would like to see improved on when we were able to (and I rolled my sleeves up and got involved).

I'm starting see what Ramrod has been saying all along about others coming in and telling him he's been doing it all wrong. For those of you that are relatively new here: welcome on board; it's a fun place to work and probably better than where you came from. We're trying to make it even better and have been hard at work at it for years. Sometimes we get it right, sometimes we don't. You are more than welcome to roll up your sleeves and get to work alongside us; this is your group now too and we could use the help. We would just assume, however, that you leave the negativity and any bitterness at the door. Even the parts you see that you don't like came on the backs of other's hard work. Like it or not, 450 of us walked out the door and gave Spirit the finger knowing we may have flown our last trip in an airplane with an "NK" on the tail. It wasn't easy- and we shouldn't expect it to get any easier the next time around. So the next time you get the notion to b&$ch about what you knowingly walked into, we'd prefer you just keep it to yourself. Most of you came from regionals that haven't done a damn thing to improve on this profession, so now's your chance to make a positive mark.