Spirit of NKS
08-21-2012, 11:02 AM
#4421
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 944
Originally Posted by Dilbert
Scott, the only one talking "calendar" days is you. My post made no mention of it. The contract language I cut and pasted made no mention of it either. You do what you like of course. I'm gonna get paid.
By the way, 0000 also takes a day off from a pilot. Technically, a 15 day off line is now a 14 day off line.
By the way, 0000 also takes a day off from a pilot. Technically, a 15 day off line is now a 14 day off line.
4.D.1.b.
Minimum pay for a trip that is not rescheduled shall be the greatest of the
following:
a. Flight pay (as per Section 2.T) for the entire trip; or
b. Four and one-half hours per duty period for the entire trip for multiple duty period trips, or four hours per duty period for single duty period trips; further, a pilot shall be credited for pay purposes with one additional duty period (four and one-half hours) for each scheduled away-from-domicile layover that exceeds a continuous 22-hour period;
Last edited by captscott26; 08-21-2012 at 11:13 AM.
08-21-2012, 11:44 AM
#4422
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Joined APC: Mar 2012
Position: A 320
Posts: 265
Originally Posted by captscott26
Good luck with your grievance. When you file it you will need the contractual reference. Here it is...
4.D.1.b.
Minimum pay for a trip that is not rescheduled shall be the greatest of the
following:
a. Flight pay (as per Section 2.T) for the entire trip; or
b. Four and one-half hours per duty period for the entire trip for multiple duty period trips, or four hours per duty period for single duty period trips; further, a pilot shall be credited for pay purposes with one additional duty period (four and one-half hours) for each scheduled away-from-domicile layover that exceeds a continuous 22-hour period;
4.D.1.b.
Minimum pay for a trip that is not rescheduled shall be the greatest of the
following:
a. Flight pay (as per Section 2.T) for the entire trip; or
b. Four and one-half hours per duty period for the entire trip for multiple duty period trips, or four hours per duty period for single duty period trips; further, a pilot shall be credited for pay purposes with one additional duty period (four and one-half hours) for each scheduled away-from-domicile layover that exceeds a continuous 22-hour period;
08-21-2012, 12:17 PM
#4423
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 944
Originally Posted by Lemonade
I heard you used to have min pay per day but gave it back in contract 2003. Maybe he is thinking of that.
08-21-2012, 12:23 PM
#4424
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Joined APC: Aug 2011
Position: Seated
Posts: 338
Originally Posted by captscott26
Good luck with your grievance. When you file it you will need the contractual reference. Here it is...
4.D.1.b.
Minimum pay for a trip that is not rescheduled shall be the greatest of the
following:
a. Flight pay (as per Section 2.T) for the entire trip; or
b. Four and one-half hours per duty period for the entire trip for multiple duty period trips, or four hours per duty period for single duty period trips; further, a pilot shall be credited for pay purposes with one additional duty period (four and one-half hours) for each scheduled away-from-domicile layover that exceeds a continuous 22-hour period;
4.D.1.b.
Minimum pay for a trip that is not rescheduled shall be the greatest of the
following:
a. Flight pay (as per Section 2.T) for the entire trip; or
b. Four and one-half hours per duty period for the entire trip for multiple duty period trips, or four hours per duty period for single duty period trips; further, a pilot shall be credited for pay purposes with one additional duty period (four and one-half hours) for each scheduled away-from-domicile layover that exceeds a continuous 22-hour period;
08-22-2012, 03:34 PM
#4425
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Joined APC: Nov 2005
Posts: 758
Originally Posted by Lemonade
I heard you used to have min pay per day but gave it back in contract 2003. Maybe he is thinking of that.
I'm surprised that anyone still believes that we have calender day min pay. It's been gone a long time.
FWIW, my NO vote was specifically related to trip averaging - duty period guarantee vs daily guarantee. A smarter than myself friend ran the numbers back then and came up with an 18% loss due to this trip average deal.
Now we need to get together, stop bi678tching about little stuff like uniforms and work on making this average bovine scat go away in three years.
08-22-2012, 03:35 PM
#4426
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Joined APC: Nov 2005
Posts: 758
Originally Posted by GoMountaineers
This is my first ever posting on APC, hope it's not too crass. . .
Are there any former Comair pilots at Spirit who might be able to offer a hand getting a soon-to-be out-of-work (thanks Delta) Comair pilot on at Spirit? I've had my sights set on Spirit (even before Delta's decision to shut Comair down), but I'm having difficulty breaking through. Thanks in advance . . .
Are there any former Comair pilots at Spirit who might be able to offer a hand getting a soon-to-be out-of-work (thanks Delta) Comair pilot on at Spirit? I've had my sights set on Spirit (even before Delta's decision to shut Comair down), but I'm having difficulty breaking through. Thanks in advance . . .
We do have a fair amount of ex Comair guys. I hope one of them will be able to help. Good Luck.
08-22-2012, 04:35 PM
#4427
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Joined APC: Sep 2006
Position: A319/321
Posts: 121
Originally Posted by GoMountaineers
This is my first ever posting on APC, hope it's not too crass. . .
Are there any former Comair pilots at Spirit who might be able to offer a hand getting a soon-to-be out-of-work (thanks Delta) Comair pilot on at Spirit? I've had my sights set on Spirit (even before Delta's decision to shut Comair down), but I'm having difficulty breaking through. Thanks in advance . . .
Are there any former Comair pilots at Spirit who might be able to offer a hand getting a soon-to-be out-of-work (thanks Delta) Comair pilot on at Spirit? I've had my sights set on Spirit (even before Delta's decision to shut Comair down), but I'm having difficulty breaking through. Thanks in advance . . .
Pm me.........
08-22-2012, 06:04 PM
#4428
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Joined APC: Aug 2012
Position: A320
Posts: 90
Originally Posted by GoMountaineers
This is my first ever posting on APC, hope it's not too crass. . .
Are there any former Comair pilots at Spirit who might be able to offer a hand getting a soon-to-be out-of-work (thanks Delta) Comair pilot on at Spirit? I've had my sights set on Spirit (even before Delta's decision to shut Comair down), but I'm having difficulty breaking through. Thanks in advance . . .
This is my first ever posting on APC, hope it's not too crass. . .
Are there any former Comair pilots at Spirit who might be able to offer a hand getting a soon-to-be out-of-work (thanks Delta) Comair pilot on at Spirit? I've had my sights set on Spirit (even before Delta's decision to shut Comair down), but I'm having difficulty breaking through. Thanks in advance . . .
Originally Posted by PokerPro
Pm me.........
08-22-2012, 06:12 PM
#4429
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: 744 CA
Posts: 4,772
dude....make 8 more post about ANYTHING and get over the min
08-22-2012, 06:28 PM
#4430
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Joined APC: Aug 2012
Position: A320
Posts: 90
Originally Posted by PokerPro
Pm me.........
Originally Posted by HercDriver130
dude....make 8 more post about ANYTHING and get over the min
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