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Old 08-26-2012 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by gatorbird
The argument could be made both ways. I don't believe you were here then, but the (failed) strategy was quoted to be to gain 150% back when the company needed help in other areas (likely the transition language). The pilot group could've also admittedly helped this along by not picking up time at 100%. Think about it: less credit to fly, paid for 100% of your sick time (used to not be the case) and everyone got a sick bank bump from the rollover of the (useless) secondary bank. It really looked like a sure bet at the time (I admit that I felt this was how the chips would fall).

For reasons unknown, it never happened. It's been two years. Some have never gotten over it, others have just learned to play by the new rules.
The 109 chairman said at the road shows that the 150% money was still in there, it was just redistributed throughout the entire pay scale. That sounded more like ALPA National talk to me, but it was the line at the time.
Old 08-26-2012 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
The 109 chairman said at the road shows that the 150% money was still in there, it was just redistributed throughout the entire pay scale. That sounded more like ALPA National talk to me, but it was the line at the time.
Right and the daily min pay is still there. It's just redistributed over your duty day.

And international override is still there. It's just redistributed over the domestic flying.
Old 08-26-2012 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Lemonade
Right and the daily min pay is still there. It's just redistributed over your duty day.

And international override is still there. It's just redistributed over the domestic flying.
And "trip averaging" is still there. It's just distributed over everything.
Old 08-26-2012 | 11:20 AM
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Seniority based DOT is still there. It's just resorted by a Spikeyhair 4G enabled iPad.
Old 08-26-2012 | 11:29 AM
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Our profit sharing is there. We just won't see it till we get stapled to the bottom of the SWA seniority list.
Old 08-26-2012 | 01:04 PM
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I was wondering why SW cancelled every flt today TO and OUT of FLL. Xwnd limits?
Old 08-26-2012 | 08:35 PM
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Lemonade If you get stapled that will be because your union tried to strong arm Gary Kelly. Ask a trannie how thats working for him/her.
Old 08-27-2012 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Orbit
Lemonade If you get stapled that will be because your union tried to strong arm Gary Kelly. Ask a trannie how thats working for him/her.
Those AirTran guys did the right thing by voting down the first SLI. They were simply out maneuvered and improperly counseled by ALPA. I feel sorry for them.
Old 08-27-2012 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Lemonade
Those AirTran guys did the right thing by voting down the first SLI. They were simply out maneuvered and improperly counseled by ALPA. I feel sorry for them.
Huh??? That statement contradicts itself. Also, they didn't vote down anything, the MEC rejected it without sending it out for a vote(my understanding). They certainly didn't end up with anything better, so I'm not sure how you could say they did the right thing by turning down the first offer. I have no dog in that fight, just an outsiders opinion.
Old 08-27-2012 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by captscott26
Huh??? That statement contradicts itself. Also, they didn't vote down anything, the MEC rejected it without sending it out for a vote(my understanding). They certainly didn't end up with anything better, so I'm not sure how you could say they did the right thing by turning down the first offer. I have no dog in that fight, just an outsiders opinion.
Huh??? What are you saying. The MEC did indeed vote to reject the first SLI. That is how our MEC does it right? We too have a separation between committee and MEC, don't we?
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